This year I've been seeing what appears to be an increasing trend among
service providers.. making the decision to leave public peering. I'm
sure others on this list as seeing that trend as well. I have a couple
of guesses, but I'm curious , and I wanted to get some other thoughts as
to the "why".
In a message written on Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 12:46:46PM -0800, Lasher, Donn
wrote:
> I realized that paid transit is down at almost obscene levels, but is
> that enough of a reason to increase hop-count, latencies, etc?
>
> Why disconnect from public mostly-free peering?
Let's look at some econo
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009, Lasher, Donn wrote:
that enough of a reason to increase hop-count, latencies, etc?
In what way is hop-count a valid measurement of network
preformance/quality?
Today with gigabit links serialisation-delay is a non-issue so hop-count
is not important anymore.
Regarding
Leo,
the DE-CIX pricing is now 500 Euro/month...since 1st october...see end
of that page.
Both DE-CIX and AMS-IX have decreased their pricing this year..almost at
the same time. I guess this is a move to stop company leaving public
exchanges...i have seen this trend, too.
Regards,
Jonas
On Wed,
uple I checked still appear to be operational as a
> company, so I'm willing to remove "death" as a valid reason.
I have some "hard numbers" from LINX. LINX receives 1 new member request per
week. There were a handful of cancelations in the last year. Doesn't seem
Leo Bicknell wrote:
rate, and that helps offset some of the costs. I've oversimplified, and
it's a very complex problem for most providers; however I know many are
looking at the fees for peering ports go from being in the noise to a
huge part of their cost structure and that doesn't work.
Le
ly if you're talking at dollars per meg.
It doesn't make sense.
-S
-Original Message-
From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org]
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:20 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Leaving public peering?
In a message written on Wed, Dec 02, 20
On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Jonas Frey wrote:
> the DE-CIX pricing is now 500 Euro/month...since 1st october...see end
> of that page.
> Both DE-CIX and AMS-IX have decreased their pricing this year..almost at
> the same time. I guess this is a move to stop company leaving public
> exchanges...i h
On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Jonas Frey wrote:
>
>> the DE-CIX pricing is now 500 Euro/month...since 1st october...see end
>> of that page.
>> Both DE-CIX and AMS-IX have decreased their pricing this year..almost at
>> the same time. I guess
On 2 Dec 2009, at 20:46, Lasher, Donn wrote:
This year I've been seeing what appears to be an increasing trend
among
service providers.. making the decision to leave public peering.
Peering is often sold as 'cheaper than transit' - for everyone that is
a gross generalisation, for many net
>Check out this report on the success of peering :
>https://www.euro-ix.net/member/m/document/showDocument/id/158
This seems to be a protected document behind login-only section of the
site. Can anyone comment on wether the document should be publically
accessible? Would love to spread it ar
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:53:46 -0500 Ken Chase wrote:
>> Check out this report on the success of peering :
>> https://www.euro-ix.net/member/m/document/showDocument/id/158
> This seems to be a protected document behind login-only section of the
> site. Can anyone comment on wether the document shou
On Dec 3, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Jonas Frey wrote:
>
>> the DE-CIX pricing is now 500 Euro/month...since 1st october...see end
>> of that page.
>> Both DE-CIX and AMS-IX have decreased their pricing this year..almost at
>> the same time. I guess
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