Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-05 Thread Martin Hannigan
From a strictly operational perspective: The only concern that I had with that request was with the v4 address blocking. That ought to be rethought in the grand scheme of things i.e. v4 exhaustion. There's a reasonable case to make regarding not tainting hosts or specific blocks in this manner.

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-05 Thread jim deleskie
Not only do we create less usable v4 address space, if these guys had a clue, and what ever you think of them with $$ envolved clue will be found... they will just add more IP's from diffrent block, further 'wasting' IP space. -jim On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Martin Hannigan

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:53, Ken Gilmour ken.gilm...@gmail.com wrote: So is this going to become like the great firewall of China eventually? You can see in the letters that they are going to see how it goes and then maybe start blocking more stuff if they are successful. I can see a big

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- successful. I can see a big nightmare heading this way if ISPs start caving in to requests like this. --- It's happening all over the place. Not picking on any country or list, just to post a few examples...

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread Beavis
Hi, I host some gambling sites (off-shore) and I would like to get some info on how i can put minnesota IP blocks on my Filter-List to comply with their 'wacked politics' -beavis On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Ken Gilmour ken.gilm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I am just wondering if

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread Tim Peiffer
Not withstanding the legality of such an order, how would one operationally enforce that order? Does this order force carriers into transparent proxy so that L7 filtering can be done? Is the carrier also required to go through geolocator matching any given IP address with 'Minnesota' so

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Beavis pfu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,  I host some gambling sites (off-shore) and I would like to get some info on how i can put minnesota IP blocks on my Filter-List to comply with their 'wacked politics' -beavis On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Ken Gilmour

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread John Levine
Not withstanding the legality of such an order, how would one operationally enforce that order? The order has a list of IP addresses, so I expect the ISPs will just block those IPs in routers somewhere. Since offshore online gambling is equally illegal everywhere in the U.S., the ISPs have

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread Ken Gilmour
So is this going to become like the great firewall of China eventually? You can see in the letters that they are going to see how it goes and then maybe start blocking more stuff if they are successful. I can see a big nightmare heading this way if ISPs start caving in to requests like this.

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread Jeremy McDermond
On May 4, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Matthew Black wrote: Instead of huffing and puffing your libertarian perspective (you called the AG's letter garbage), you might make a quick Google search of 18USC1084(d), which provides a wealth of information on the legality of such enforcement actions.

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread Jack Bates
Jeremy McDermond wrote: manner that Minnesota seeks. In this case the First Amendment may be applicable because this seems to be a prior restraint on speech. Additionally, it is content based because it seeks to restrict speech due to its transmission or reception of gambling information.

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-04 Thread John R. Levine
So is this going to become like the great firewall of China eventually? Who knows. It's hardly the first government attempt to block illegal content, viz. the secret Pennsylvania list of child porn sites. R's, John

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-02 Thread Ken Gilmour
For anyone who cares, IMEGA released the letter from the state of Minnesota: http://www.imega.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ab001dd4.pdf 2009/4/29 Ken Gilmour ken.gilm...@gmail.com: Hi there, I am just wondering if anyone knows any more about the attempt by Minnesota to block online

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
What a pile of garbage. I would definitely get a legal review of a request like that before blocking any of my customer's traffic. -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications of The IRC Company, Inc. Look for us at

Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-04-29 Thread Ken Gilmour
Hi there, I am just wondering if anyone knows any more about the attempt by Minnesota to block online gambling companies other than what's publicly available (e.g. http://www.gambling911.com/gambling-news/minnesota-regulators-try-block-access-gambing-sites-042909.html)? Such as a list or the