Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-28 Thread Jared Mauch
Nokia you want the G6 XS-010XR-P line and the 230 enclosure UBNT also has XG and GPON PoE devices, you can dual power them from their USB + 24V passive - Their XGS unit does not do POE. I don’t recommend using the GPON SFP modules, the device they go in may not signal to you enough information

Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Calix just announced this today. GPR4001XH XGS pon with 4 poe ports. One 10G three 1G. https://eng2e.seismic.com/i/SKeXK2oT6LIeLYiJ9M34v3KmSECpxeMqY6LBELSMD5NrHbPHQMax6LgQq___VX3rmzgEL5I1STXPLUSSIGNGdM4fR3p15v670b1ZmzzJJPLjtUpPdMS8EQUALSIGN On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 9:31 AM Chris Hills wrote: >

Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-21 Thread Chris Hills
On 19/06/2024 16:35, Brandon Martin wrote: I believe many of these were resolved with XGSPON, but you should consult your OLT vendor.  At minimum, expect to potentially into a situation where you cannot bulk upgrade the ONT firmware from the OLT over the OMCI but instead have to do it with L3 c

Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-19 Thread Karsten Thomann via NANOG
pect to potentially into a > situation where you cannot bulk upgrade the ONT firmware from the OLT > over the OMCI but instead have to do it with L3 connectivity to each ONT. Sure there were issues, but the OMCI specification got updates and BBF also tests ONTs https://www.broadband-for

Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-19 Thread Brandon Martin
On 6/19/24 09:50, daveb wrote: You could try a GPON/XGSPON ONT SFP (SFU mode provisioning) in your favorite PoE switch/router. This is probably your best bet. I think basically everybody has a "ONT on a stick" in their catalog now for both XGSPON and GPON. Then provide your own switch that

Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-19 Thread Brandon Martin
On 6/19/24 09:30, Karsten Thomann via NANOG wrote: As the ONT should all be using OMCI, any reason not using Zhone ONT with another OLT Vendor to avoid the CLI issue? Or are they that special and don't work with other OLT? I know with GPON, there are some nuances in the OMCI that cause frequent

Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-19 Thread daveb
You could try a GPON/XGSPON ONT SFP (SFU mode provisioning) in your favorite PoE switch/router. On 6/19/2024 5:55 AM, chiel via NANOG wrote: Hello, I'm looking for a for a vendor that has XGS-PON/GPON ONT's with PoE ports (preferable 4). Adtran and Calix don't seem any model that has PoE.

Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-19 Thread Benjamin Hatton
Calix GPR8802x is the only Calix XGSPON capable device that I know of with POE, but it's a full 1RU business oriented device and not really designed (or priced) for standard residential CPE. 380W total, up to 60W per port spread across 6x Gigabit ports, and 2x 2.5G ports Rest is a 10G WAN SFP+ (f

Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-19 Thread Karsten Thomann via NANOG
Yes, Nokia has some ONTs with PoE, but are not really the requested size. I'm only aware about the U-090CP-P and the bigger U-00160CP-P, but they have 9 Ports or more... Not aware about any standard G- or XS- residential ONT with PoE.. I've never used the U series ONT, so no real life

RE: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-19 Thread Travis Garrison
I think Nokia has a few ONT's with POE Thank you Travis Garrison -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of chiel via NANOG Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2024 4:55 AM To: list Subject: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs Hello, I'm looking for a for a vendor that has XGS-PON/

XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

2024-06-19 Thread chiel via NANOG
Hello, I'm looking for a for a vendor that has XGS-PON/GPON ONT's with PoE ports (preferable 4). Adtran and Calix don't seem any model that has PoE. Zhone (DZS) has one but we don't like the CLI/config, to complex. Huawei also has PoE models but we prefer not to use them. Anybody knows any ot

Passpoint ONTs

2024-05-22 Thread Mike Hammett
I know that this list is normally big picture Internet-centric, but I have a last-mile question for the group. Have you seen any Passpoint-certified residential ONTs? The use case is to provide cellular offload over our last-mile fiber infrastructure. Often these projects are pitched towards

Linux-running SFPs [Was: Re: ONTs]

2022-01-13 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 14/1/22 2:45 am, Dave Taht wrote: Thx. I started a thread over on the cerowrt-devel mailing list on this, it was cool to find several linux based SFPs worth playing with, Finding a set of "common" ONTs worth configuring in a way more suited for an fq_codel'd router (and espec

Re: ONTs

2022-01-13 Thread Dave Taht
ing it would hold true with XG/s/PON, NGPON, etc. > > The way at least my gear (Adtran) works is that you configure > shaping/policing as part of the provisioned service. That information > is communicated to the ONTs via the OMCI. > > AFAIK, the ONT enforces admission control

Re: ONTs

2022-01-12 Thread Brandon Martin
you configure shaping/policing as part of the provisioned service. That information is communicated to the ONTs via the OMCI. AFAIK, the ONT enforces admission control on the upstream (and coordinates for timeslot assignments with the OLT since upstream oversubscription is supported and common

Re: ONTs

2022-01-12 Thread Josh Luthman
I would have to imagine any QOS/traffic shaping is done in the OMCI and hence would probably be in the GPON spec, g.984. I would look there. Just guessing it would hold true with XG/s/PON, NGPON, etc. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, O

Re: ONTs

2022-01-12 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 12:27 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > > That's usually an OMCI control thing on the OLT (traffic shaping, qos). Do > you have a specific question in mind? My dream, of course, is fq_codel (nowadays, sch_cake) on every potential bottleneck link. FQ for essentially zero latency f

Re: ONTs

2022-01-12 Thread Josh Luthman
That's usually an OMCI control thing on the OLT (traffic shaping, qos). Do you have a specific question in mind? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:04 PM Dave Taht wrote: > Does anyone have any insig

ONTs

2022-01-12 Thread Dave Taht
Does anyone have any insight as to the OS and overall capabilities of various ONT's? Traffic shaping/QoS and statistics? On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 12:01 PM Shawn L via NANOG wrote: > > Yes. In our scenario the ONT is basically an ethernet bridge and provides a > SIP end-point for calls. There ar

RE: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-21 Thread Kevin Burke
lecom@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:18 AM To: 'Pete@TCC'; Jean-Francois Mezei; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: FTTH ONTs and routers FYI, Calix has GPON support for the 836GE ONT on the E7 today, and it will be supported in GPON mode in Release 9.0 on

RE: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-17 Thread Frank Bulk
@nanog.org Subject: Re: FTTH ONTs and routers There are many ONTs out there with various abilities. I can only comment on what I deploy, and what various telcos deploy that I am familiar with. A few years ago, all of our AE and GPON ONTs were deployed as bridges. Port 1 was generally an

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-16 Thread Pete@TCC
There are many ONTs out there with various abilities. I can only comment on what I deploy, and what various telcos deploy that I am familiar with. A few years ago, all of our AE and GPON ONTs were deployed as bridges. Port 1 was generally an Internet VLAN, and port 2,3,4 were IPTV VLANs

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Mark Tinka" > On Thursday, May 15, 2014 07:24:33 PM Aled Morris wrote: > > I notice Cisco's new ME4600 ONT's come in two flavors, > > one (the "Residential GateWay") with all the bells and > > whistles that you'd expect in an all-in-one home router > > (voice

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 07:24:33 PM Aled Morris wrote: > I notice Cisco's new ME4600 ONT's come in two flavors, > one (the "Residential GateWay") with all the bells and > whistles that you'd expect in an all-in-one home router > (voice ports, small ethernet switch, wifi access point) > and anoth

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 07:11:20 PM Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > Can anyone confirm whether ONTs generally have routing > (aka: home router that does the PPPoE or DHCP and then > NAT for home) capabilities? I know of a well-known vendor coming out with a new OLT that supports bot

RE: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Frank Bulk
Calix's indoor ONT (836GE) come with RG functionality by default: http://www.calix.com/systems/p-series/calix_residential_services_gateways.html but they also have a software load for their 700GE-series ONTs: http://www.calix.com/news/press_releases/press_release_20130611.html

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 15 May 2014, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: Are there examples where a telco has deployed ONTs with the router built-in and enabled ? Or would almost all FTTH deployments be made with any routing disabled and the ONT acting as a pure ethernet bridge ? Can we please stop equating FTTH and

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Shawn L
Calix makes a number of ONTs some with residential gateways, some that are just bridges On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Aled Morris wrote: > I notice Cisco's new ME4600 ONT's come in two flavors, one (the > "Residential GateWay") with all the bells and whistles tha

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
Many thanks for the answers so far. On 14-05-15 13:35, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >>The assertion that ONTs have built-in routing capabilities has been >>challenged. > > By who? A rather large company in Canada whose name contains the last name of the inventor of the Telephone

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Clayton Zekelman
At 01:11 PM 15/05/2014, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: It had been my impression that ONTs, like most other consumer modems, came with built-in router capabilities (along with ATA for voice). The assertion that ONTs have built-in routing capabilities has been challenged. By who? Can anyone

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Aled Morris
that looks a lot more basic and is likely to be deployed as a bridge. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/me-4600-series-multiservice-optical-access-platform/datasheet-c78-730446.html Aled On 15 May 2014 18:11, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > > It had been my impression t

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Scott Helms
Jean-Francois, I've seen it done both ways, and _usually_ newer ONTs will have the capacity even if its not used. Having said that there is no real standardization between vendors other than the physical layer (and even that's not great) so what's common for one vendor may well be

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On May 15, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > > It had been my impression that ONTs, like most other consumer modems, > came with built-in router capabilities (along with ATA for voice). > > The assertion that ONTs have built-in routing capabilities has be

FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
It had been my impression that ONTs, like most other consumer modems, came with built-in router capabilities (along with ATA for voice). The assertion that ONTs have built-in routing capabilities has been challenged. Can anyone confirm whether ONTs generally have routing (aka: home router that