Re: Question about ISP billing procedures

2019-03-02 Thread Baldur Norddahl
You can calculate the min and max by running it twice. Once with zero for missing values and once with max line speed. The true bill will be somewhere between min and max. If you are the ISP you would need to assume zero. You can only bill what you can prove. If you are the customer, you need t

Re: Question about ISP billing procedures

2019-02-28 Thread Jared Mauch
Background: I used to own the code that was used to bill for awhile... > On Feb 27, 2019, at 11:10 PM, Michael Gehrmann > wrote: > > From my provider days if you miss data you can't bill it or assume zero. This was my experience as well. I remember a router vendor bug that if the traffic wa

Re: Question about ISP billing procedures

2019-02-28 Thread Alain Hebert
As per our village lawyer and accountant ...     Assuming         95th percentile billing, sampling every 5 minutes.     You'll need about 1.5days worth of 0 (~447 samples missing in a row) to bork the curve...  and it goes the bith ways.     If you're 5Gbps committed on a 10Gbps and you bur

Re: Question about ISP billing procedures

2019-02-27 Thread Ben Cannon
You have to zero it. -Ben > On Feb 27, 2019, at 8:10 PM, Michael Gehrmann wrote: > > From my provider days if you miss data you can't bill it or assume zero. > > Mike > > >> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 15:06, Steve Meuse wrote: >> I can say that missing samples weren’t back filled when we billed

Re: Question about ISP billing procedures

2019-02-27 Thread Roy
On 2/27/2019 8:31 PM, Daniel Rohan wrote: Can anyone shed light on how ISPs handle missing samples when calculating p95s for monthly billing cycles? Do they fill null samples with zeros or leave them as null?  I’m working o

Re: Question about ISP billing procedures

2019-02-27 Thread Michael Gehrmann
>From my provider days if you miss data you can't bill it or assume zero. Mike On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 15:06, Steve Meuse wrote: > I can say that missing samples weren’t back filled when we billed. Never > had any complaints. > > -Steve > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:31 PM Daniel Rohan wrote:

Re: Question about ISP billing procedures

2019-02-27 Thread Steve Meuse
I can say that missing samples weren’t back filled when we billed. Never had any complaints. -Steve On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:31 PM Daniel Rohan wrote: > Can anyone shed light on how ISPs handle missing samples when calculating > p95s for monthly billing cycles? Do they fill null samples with

Re: Question about ISP billing procedures

2019-02-27 Thread Ross Tajvar
Interesting question. How often are you missing data? I'd expect that to be pretty robust. On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 10:33 PM Daniel Rohan wrote: > Can anyone shed light on how ISPs handle missing samples when calculating > p95s for monthly billing cycles? Do they fill null samples with zeros or > l

Question about ISP billing procedures

2019-02-27 Thread Daniel Rohan
Can anyone shed light on how ISPs handle missing samples when calculating p95s for monthly billing cycles? Do they fill null samples with zeros or leave them as null? I’m working on a billing sanity tool and want to make sure to cover my corner cases well. Thanks! Dan -- Thanks, Dan