On 16/Jul/20 19:34, Mark Tinka wrote:
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> BFD on LAG's on IOS XR platforms in a LAN environment don't work. A
> point-to-point mechanism is required, so we disabled it there. Junos
> and IOS XE have no problems running BFD on LAG's in LAN's, so we have
> it on there. This is for within the data
On 18/Jul/20 15:31, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote:
>
> Well luckily we have MEF to set expectations about ones
> EPL/EVPL/EPLAN/EVPLAN performance. (and formal SLA contracts
> describing every single aspect of the service and its performance).
>
> Anyways, when I was designing these the back
as a provider got more $$$ from single investment to our wave/fiber, but our
customers could enjoy p2p links on par with wave for less $.
adam
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Robert Raszuk
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To: Mark Tinka
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Subject: Re: BFD for long haul cir
On 17/Jul/20 18:42, Tom Hill wrote:
> Yes, I rather think that you've drawn comparison to "consumer" as being
> in a home somewhere.
>
> Someone that consumes a circuit, and someone that provides the service
> (or resells one). A business customer is a consumer in that case - I
> won't discrimi
On 17/07/2020 16:40, Mark Tinka wrote:
> I don't know of "Consumers" that buy l2vpn's. Most consumers usually go
> for ADSL, FTTH or 4G... all carrying IP :-).
>
> We have several customers that buy EoMPLS circuits from us both within
> and outside of countries, and between continents. The reasons
: BFD for long haul circuit
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On 16/Jul/20 05:51, Harivishnu Abhilash wrote:
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Guys, I’m looking for recommendation regarding BFD timers that we can use for
On 17/Jul/20 17:12, Nick Hilliard wrote:
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> I was going to suggest that there wasn't much in the way of consumer
> grade international circuits, so why would you even bring this up?
> But then I lol'd.
Now you have me wondering whether Tom was serious or not :-).
It's time for my Friday win
On 17/Jul/20 17:06, Tom Hill wrote:
> The differentiation is: consumer vs. service provider.
>
> If you're a service provider, don't buy a consumer product and hope to
> sell it on at a similar (or higher) SLA rate to other consumers; that
> way lies ruin.
I don't know of "Consumers" that buy
Tom Hill wrote on 17/07/2020 16:06:
If you're a service provider, don't buy a consumer product and hope to
sell it on at a similar (or higher) SLA rate to other consumers; that
way lies ruin.
I was going to suggest that there wasn't much in the way of consumer
grade international circuits, so
On 17/07/2020 10:57, Mark Tinka wrote:
> I suppose a lot of customers go for it because they need an Ethernet
> service slower than 1Gbps, and 1Gbps via a DWDM service is pricier.
>
> Where I've seen it be popular is in intercontinental circuits that
> customers want in order to test a market with
On 17/Jul/20 11:50, Robert Raszuk wrote:
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> Fortunately very fortunately Mark.
Hehe, I meant in the context of not having a similar condition as the OP.
> L2VPNs running on someone's IP backbone sold by many as "circuits" has
> many issues ... stability, MTU blackhols, random drops - an
> Unfortunately not.
Fortunately very fortunately Mark.
L2VPNs running on someone's IP backbone sold by many as "circuits" has many
issues ... stability, MTU blackhols, random drops - and that is pretty much
the same all over the world :(
Very unfortunate technology just to mux more users
On 17/Jul/20 02:37, Harivishnu Abhilash wrote:
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>
> Thanks for the update. You have any backhauls, that is running over an
> L2 xconnect ? I’m facing issue only on the backhaul link over a l2vpn
> ckt.
>
Unfortunately not. All our backbones are either over dark fibre or EoDWDM.
Mark.
On 16/Jul/20 05:51, Harivishnu Abhilash wrote:
>
> *Classification:**Public*
>
>
>
> Guys, I’m looking for recommendation regarding BFD timers that we can
> use for long haul circuit. RTT is roughly around 110 ms. In fact this
> is a l2vpn ckt provided by a telco.
>
> Can you please advise the
Hey,
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 17:07, Harivishnu Abhilash
wrote:
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> Guys, I’m looking for recommendation regarding BFD timers that we can use for
> long haul circuit. RTT is roughly around 110 ms. In fact this is a l2vpn ckt
> provided by a telco.
>
> Can you please adv
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