Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-14 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 5/14/2010 19:00, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 5/14/2010 16:42, Ingo Flaschberger wrote: We had a lightning strike nearby yesterday that looks to have come inside our facility via a feeder circuit that goes outdoors underground to our facility's gate. >> >> Perhaps there was a "move"

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/14/2010 16:42, Ingo Flaschberger wrote: >>> We had a lightning strike nearby yesterday that looks to have come >>> inside our facility via a feeder circuit that goes outdoors >>> underground to our facility's gate. > > Perhaps there was a "move" of the earth-level relative to the neutral line

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-14 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
We had a lightning strike nearby yesterday that looks to have come inside our facility via a feeder circuit that goes outdoors underground to our facility's gate. Perhaps there was a "move" of the earth-level relative to the neutral line. I have no idea how neutral-line to earth potential is h

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-14 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On May 13, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Mark Mayfield wrote: About a month ago, we had a lightning strike near our main campus. We lost one POE Cisco 3560 completely (apparently blown power supply), and in a separate but nearby building, another 3560 lost the ability to deliver POE, but continued to

RE: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-14 Thread John Lee
IMHO, Long runs of UTP (unshielded twisted pair) make wonderful antenna systems for EMI and EMP which is why they are matched to differential drivers and receivers to reject as much common noise as they are designed to. Older and larger Ethernet interfaces have drivers separated from the logic

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 13 May 2010 11:36:35 am Caleb Tennis wrote: > I was just curious if anyone had seen anything similar to this before? Our > incoming electrical power has surge suppression, and the power to the > switches is all through double conversion UPS, so I'm not quite sure why > any of them woul

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-13 Thread Pete Carah
On 05/13/2010 02:52 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: > On May 13, 2010, at 2:24 04PM, Daniel Senie wrote: > > >> While the equipment may well be affected by an EM pulse, if the gear returns >> to normal after a power cycle, then the equipment vendor didn't do their job >> fully developing the produc

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-13 Thread Steven Bellovin
On May 13, 2010, at 2:24 04PM, Daniel Senie wrote: > While the equipment may well be affected by an EM pulse, if the gear returns > to normal after a power cycle, then the equipment vendor didn't do their job > fully developing the product. A product should be tested to take such pulses > and

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-13 Thread Paul Timmins
Caleb Tennis wrote: We had a lightning strike nearby yesterday that looks to have come inside our facility via a feeder circuit that goes outdoors underground to our facility's gate. What's interesting is that various POE switches throughout the entire building seemed to be affected in that s

RE: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-13 Thread Mark Mayfield
About a month ago, we had a lightning strike near our main campus. We lost one POE Cisco 3560 completely (apparently blown power supply), and in a separate but nearby building, another 3560 lost the ability to deliver POE, but continued to operate as a switch. Both had to be replaced. Both wer

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-13 Thread Daniel Senie
While the equipment may well be affected by an EM pulse, if the gear returns to normal after a power cycle, then the equipment vendor didn't do their job fully developing the product. A product should be tested to take such pulses and should recover provided it has not suffered a catastrophic fa

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-13 Thread Pete Carah
On 05/13/2010 12:19 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 5/13/2010 10:36, Caleb Tennis wrote: > >> We had a lightning strike nearby yesterday that looks to have come inside >> our facility via a feeder circuit that goes outdoors underground to our >> facility's gate. >> >> What's interesting is tha

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-13 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 5/13/2010 10:36, Caleb Tennis wrote: > We had a lightning strike nearby yesterday that looks to have come inside our > facility via a feeder circuit that goes outdoors underground to our > facility's gate. > > What's interesting is that various POE switches throughout the entire > building

RE: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-13 Thread Matlock, Kenneth L
My first guess would be the lightning was close enough/powerful enough, to send out an EM Pulse which got picked up by the copper going to the devices. This EM Pulse may have been interpreted at the switchport as the device relinquishing power? Had you tried just unplugging one of the devices from