Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-21 Thread Andy Davidson
On 20 May 2010, at 13:06, Net wrote: > Are there any policies set by internet registries and/or transit providers > today that prohibits organizations from using a Partially used IP Block > allocated in one region say AP through APNIC to be comissioned and Propagated > in another region such a

Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread Jon Lewis
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Owen DeLong wrote: LoL... In my experience, the guys that are getting money from you will route what you want routed unless they have reason to believe you are not legitimately entitled to route it. Like spammers buying IPs from RIPE region LIRs such as jump.ro, and then

Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread Owen DeLong
On May 20, 2010, at 9:13 PM, John Lee wrote: > Some pseudo random thoughts and questions? (my BGP is rusty.) > > 1. Does it violate your AUP with APNIC? > Not if he has infrastructure in the remote location and infrastructure and/or HQ in APNIC region. > 2. If the larger routing prefix is fro

RE: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread John Lee
Some pseudo random thoughts and questions? (my BGP is rusty.) 1. Does it violate your AUP with APNIC? 2. If the larger routing prefix is from APNIC will your upstream in the EMEA region filter or black hole the sub prefix since it is from APNIC and not RIPE and would appear to be a hijacked blo

Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread Net
; Cc: George Bonser; nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another >> >> On 2010-05-20 09:36, Owen DeLong wrote: >> > We're scraping the bottom of the barrel for IPv4 space these days. >> > It is what it is, and it's only

RE: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: joel jaeggli [mailto:joe...@bogus.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:05 AM > To: Owen DeLong > Cc: George Bonser; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another > > On 2010-05-20 09:36, Owen DeLong w

Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2010-05-20 09:36, Owen DeLong wrote: We're scraping the bottom of the barrel for IPv4 space these days. It is what it is, and it's only going to get worse in IPv4. Time to go to IPv6. in ipv6 we're using our arin /32 in all regions where we appear... joel Owen

Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread Owen DeLong
On May 20, 2010, at 9:14 AM, George Bonser wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:37 AM >> To: Net >> Cc: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP

RE: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:37 AM > To: Net > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another > > > You state "Obv, the best approach...".

Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread Owen DeLong
There is absolutely nothing wrong with an organization getting all of it's IP resources world wide from a single registry if they prefer to do so. There is no policy prohibiting this in any registry. The policies are designed to prevent "registry shopping" by organizations with neither infrastruct

Re: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread Beavis
From my experience with the provider I have, when I try to acquire IP space to let's say on the RIPE side (Im on the LACNIC side) for reasons like greater visibility (some how). I believe that RIPE requires me to have a company registered on the EMEA side or have my provider place it for me. but