RE: Verizon FiOS IPv6

2014-10-01 Thread David Hubbard
o:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Justin M. Streiner Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:58 AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Verizon FiOS IPv6 On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Anthony Junk wrote: > I already have IPv6 on my router at home. They rolled out an update a > few months back that added the c

Re: Verizon FiOS IPv6

2014-10-01 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Anthony Junk wrote: I already have IPv6 on my router at home. They rolled out an update a few months back that added the capability for the latest 802.1N model. I'm not at home to look at it but I'll update with the model this evening. Like many others, I would be intereste

Re: Verizon FiOS IPv6

2014-10-01 Thread Anthony Junk
I already have IPv6 on my router at home. They rolled out an update a few months back that added the capability for the latest 802.1N model. I'm not at home to look at it but I'll update with the model this evening. Sincerely, Anthony R Junk Network and Security Engineer (410) 929-1838 anthonyrj.

Re: Verizon FiOS IPv6

2014-09-30 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 01:35:15AM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Romeo Czumbil wrote: > > Does anybody have any idea on when Verizon FiOS is turning up IPv6? > > (dual-stack) > > looking at the archives is helpful in this question/answer process.. > but to sa

Re: Verizon FiOS IPv6

2014-09-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Romeo Czumbil wrote: > Does anybody have any idea on when Verizon FiOS is turning up IPv6? > (dual-stack) looking at the archives is helpful in this question/answer process.. but to save you the digging: "When there's ice in the devil's house" (essentially)

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-03-02 Thread Paul WALL
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > I've heard all sorts of BS answers as to why there is no v6 for FIOS, Step 1. Ask an ALU sales droid about their IPv6 support on PON Step 2. Be disappointed by the answer Step 3. Stroke chin or beard thoughtfully while enjoying the epip

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-02-27 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014, Tristan Lear wrote: We have a business-class FIOS connection where I work and a static IP as well. At least three people who work here have FIOS at home. I've read rumors about business class customers who really work their phone sex getting native ipv6, and I also heard s

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-02-27 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014, Bryan Seitz wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 09:18:08PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: I echo the 'good luck' and ditto on the experience. There's a lot of people anxious to get IPv6 on FIOS, but there seems to be precious little movement over there. I've been fighting this b

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-02-27 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Christopher Morrow" > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Stephen Frost > wrote: > > * Christopher Morrow (morrowc.li...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Stephen Frost > >> wrote: > >> > There's a lot of people anxious to get IPv6 on FIO

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-02-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Christopher Morrow (morrowc.li...@gmail.com) wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: >> > There's a lot of people anxious to get IPv6 on FIOS, but there seems to >> > be precious little movement over there. >> >> it

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-02-27 Thread Stephen Frost
* Christopher Morrow (morrowc.li...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: > > There's a lot of people anxious to get IPv6 on FIOS, but there seems to > > be precious little movement over there. > > it really is just an embarrassment :( Oh, I agree, and the old

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-02-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: > I echo the 'good luck' and ditto on the experience. > > There's a lot of people anxious to get IPv6 on FIOS, but there seems to > be precious little movement over there. > it really is just an embarrassment :( perhaps shame will work to moti

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-02-27 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 09:18:08PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: > I echo the 'good luck' and ditto on the experience. > > There's a lot of people anxious to get IPv6 on FIOS, but there seems to > be precious little movement over there. > > * David Hubbard (dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com) wrote: > >

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-02-27 Thread Stephen Frost
I echo the 'good luck' and ditto on the experience. There's a lot of people anxious to get IPv6 on FIOS, but there seems to be precious little movement over there. * David Hubbard (dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com) wrote: > Good luck. We've been bitching at our sales rep for years, as we've added

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-02-27 Thread David Hubbard
Good luck. We've been bitching at our sales rep for years, as we've added circuits, and haven't gotten even empty promises; just the same endless Verizon BS about "it's being tested in select markets" although no one has ever been able to prove that to be the case. You definitely get static IP

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-09 Thread Geert Bosch
On Jan 9, 2014, at 14:32, Stephen Frost wrote: > Sure, entirely possible, but I'd be investigating into why because > clearly there's a better ipv4 route than that being used, if ipv6 > tunneled over ipv4 is faster. A bit of difference is fine, but it > sounded like more than 'a bit'. Of cours

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-09 Thread Stephen Frost
* valdis.kletni...@vt.edu (valdis.kletni...@vt.edu) wrote: > On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:41:30 -0500, Stephen Frost said: > > I'm really curious how *that* is working out. My IPv6 tunnel is only a > > ms or two slower than IPv4 (and it's all sub-15ms), but there is > > something very odd if the tunnel

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:41:30 -0500, Stephen Frost said: > I'm really curious how *that* is working out. My IPv6 tunnel is only a > ms or two slower than IPv4 (and it's all sub-15ms), but there is > something very odd if the tunnel is *faster*. Have you tried working > out where the difference is

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-09 Thread Stephen Frost
* Geert Bosch (bo...@adacore.com) wrote: > On Jan 8, 2014, at 17:03, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > > I have a tunnel through HE and it is solid. [...] > --- .gnat.com ping6 statistics --- > 20 packets transmitted, 20 packets received, 0.0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 15.204/16

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:03:13 AM Justin M. Streiner wrote: > My guesses for the foot-dragging, re: v6 deployment on > FiOS: 1. Can't get their set-top boxes working on it > yet. One customer service rep told me this. I didn't > feel up to starting the whole "what's wrong with > dual-st

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Geert Bosch
On Jan 8, 2014, at 17:03, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > I have a tunnel through HE and it is solid. I'm on Verizon FIOS (70/30 Mbit/s), and set up my ActionTec router to allow tunneling traffic through, but am using my Apple TimeCapsule base station (3 years old) for the actual IPv6 tunneling. I'

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Owen DeLong
t an additional /48 per tunnel just by requesting it. Owen > > -Original Message- > From: Paul B. Henson [mailto:hen...@acm.org] > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 8:29 PM > To: 'Ian Bowers' > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6? >

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread David Hubbard
ative though to avoid the messier setup, throughput (although HE is very good on that front too), latency, etc. -Original Message- From: Paul B. Henson [mailto:hen...@acm.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 8:29 PM To: 'Ian Bowers' Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Verizon FIOS

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Paul B. Henson
> From: Ian Bowers [mailto:iggd...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 5:31 AM > > indication that native IPv6 is starting up, but never hears anything. So I > rock HE like many of you. It works pretty well, and I'm, guessing I get a > lot more address space via HE than VZ would give m

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Ian Bowers wrote: So I rock HE like many of you. It works pretty well, and I'm, guessing I get a lot more address space via HE than VZ would give me. I have a tunnel through HE and it is solid. Verizon states on their "What is IPv6?" page that they will provide a /56 to

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Ian Bowers
I've been barking at them for a couple years now, I never get much. They're good about staffing their front line support with flowchart monkeys. My internet facing device is constantly listening for any sort of indication that native IPv6 is starting up, but never hears anything. So I rock HE li

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Paul B. Henson
> From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:a...@latency.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 8:10 PM > > Sorry, yes, that is correct: one way to get IPv6 FIOS at the home is > to escalate through your (701/VZB) account team. Hmm, I actually have business FIOS at home (static IP highway robbery ), and have

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Paul B. Henson
> From: Justin M. Streiner [mailto:strei...@cluebyfour.org] > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 6:02 PM > > If you find the answer, you win the prize. Can the prize be the Verizon employees that should have been keeping us in the loop on this in a dunk tank ;)? > I've tried shaking numerous trees (

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Vlade Ristevski
My actiontec router has had that IPv6 page for a while now. I'm 20 minutes outside NYC. However when I enable it, I still don't get a broadband IPv6 address in the System Monitoring tab. On 1/8/2014 8:26 AM, George, Wes wrote: On 1/7/14, 11:10 PM, "Adam Rothschild" wrote: I should probably

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Lee Howard wrote: > I've read in some forums that there are pockets of FiOS users with IPv6 > running. I've seen LLA on ActionTec modems. Something tells me that they > will sneak up on us with a sudden deployment. would be grand if they'd let folk know it's comin

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Lee Howard
On 1/8/14 9:34 AM, "Brian Henson" wrote: >The only major ISP that I seen so far that has rolled out is Comcast. Been >probing the TW Cable people for months to see what their plans are for >IPv6 >in Ohio and all I have gotten is a million different stories. TWC Ohio (residential service): Rea

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Brian Henson
The only major ISP that I seen so far that has rolled out is Comcast. Been probing the TW Cable people for months to see what their plans are for IPv6 in Ohio and all I have gotten is a million different stories. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Geo

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, George, Wes wrote: Interestingly, I have one of the later-generation ActionTecs, and VZ pushed a software update to it at some point and it sprouted IPv6 config. I noticed the same thing on my router several months ago, but when I called to see if I could get IPv6 turned o

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread George, Wes
On 1/7/14, 11:10 PM, "Adam Rothschild" wrote: >I should probably add that there was a real router plugged into the >ethernet port on the ONT, given a lack of support in the ActionTec >code ... Interestingly, I have one of the later-generation ActionTecs, and VZ pushed a software update to it at

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-07 Thread Andrew Fried
You fared better than I did. I also am a Verizon Business customer, and when I called and inquired about ipv6 I was told that they didn't carry that channel. :) Andrew Fried andrew.fr...@gmail.com On 1/7/14, 11:28 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Christopher Morrow (morrowc.li...@gmail.com) wrote:

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-07 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014, Paul B. Henson wrote: So I was curious, has anyone managed to penetrate the black hole that appears to be surrounding any actual details on Verizon FIOS IPv6 deployment? If you find the answer, you win the prize. I've tried shaking numerous trees (front-line customer servi

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-07 Thread Stephen Frost
* Christopher Morrow (morrowc.li...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Adam Rothschild wrote: > > I've heard of folk in and around the NYC metro getting set up for v6 > > by escalating through their commercial account teams, or the field > > 'commercial account teams' == busines

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-07 Thread Adam Rothschild
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> I've heard of folk in and around the NYC metro getting set up for v6 >> by escalating through their commercial account teams, or the field > > 'commercial account teams' == business customers? Sorry, yes, that is correct: one way to ge

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Adam Rothschild wrote: > I've heard of folk in and around the NYC metro getting set up for v6 > by escalating through their commercial account teams, or the field 'commercial account teams' == business customers? > service managers who went out to their homes to

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-07 Thread Adam Rothschild
I've heard of folk in and around the NYC metro getting set up for v6 by escalating through their commercial account teams, or the field service managers who went out to their homes to supervise their early-adopter [X]GPON ONT installations. This isn't to say the process was particularly easy or fu

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-07 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 10:13:38PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:06 PM, David Hubbard > wrote: > > We have fios for some office locations and can't get jack out of our > > sales rep; just the same well it's being tested bs. It's as if the only > > ... snip... > >

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:06 PM, David Hubbard wrote: > We have fios for some office locations and can't get jack out of our > sales rep; just the same well it's being tested bs. It's as if the only ... snip... > Fios folks have absolutely no clue. It's really quite annoying. Even a > wait 24

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-07 Thread David Hubbard
We have fios for some office locations and can't get jack out of our sales rep; just the same well it's being tested bs. It's as if the only people at VZ that know IPv6 went to the wireless side, where I can do native dual stack all day long on my phone, tablet and hotspot, but the Fios folks have