Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:33:12 CDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > No, a true routing loop will transit several hops and end back up at the same > routers. Out of curiosity, what's the biggest loop anybody's come across? I see plenty of "two adjacent routers pointing at each other", and the occasional 3

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Sena, Rich wrote: Man it's been awhile... "Godwin..." errr maybe it's "Nazi" - or perhaps "Boursey" damn how do we stop this again?!?! Please only reply if you remember the magic word to make this thread stop! I think it is several words: No operational discussions on NANOG. -- Requiescas i

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Sena, Rich
rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Paul Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: nanog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri Jul 18 22:33:12 2008 Subject: Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop No, a true routing loop will transit several hops and end back up at the same routers. A bounci

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Guy_Shields
ts default gateway. - Original Message - From: "Paul Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/18/2008 10:25 PM AST To: Guy Shields Cc: nanog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop Isn't that what a routing loop is, when it loops back out to the tr

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Mike Lewinski
Paul Wall wrote: Isn't that what a routing loop is, when it loops back out to the transit/interface from which it entered? Of course. I think the sensitivity comes in to whether the diagnosis "routing loop" is one of the cause or effect. I.E. "this routing loop appears to show a network pro

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Paul Wall
h a weight of 254. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 07/18/2008 06:57 PM AST > To: "William Pitcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop >

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Guy_Shields
AIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop I'd like to rip on Mzima as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure how they could "fix" this routing loop, shy of some creative ACLs. You should try contacting Ubiquity, as this traceroute looks like an issue on thei

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Paul Wall
I'd like to rip on Mzima as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure how they could "fix" this routing loop, shy of some creative ACLs. You should try contacting Ubiquity, as this traceroute looks like an issue on their (Mzima's customer's) side. Paul Wall On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:27 PM, William

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Joe Provo
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:49:25PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: [snip] > I'm aware what side it's on. However, I didn't have contact information > for an actual human on either side of the link, so I posted on [EMAIL > PROTECTED] [snip] There's a lot of rolodex resources out there that can get y

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread William Pitcock
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 13:32 -0700, Aaron Glenn wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, William Pitcock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Sadly, I don't have any contact with either one, but I do need to be > > able to access that server, and it's responsible admin is no where to be > >

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Sadly, I don't have any contact with either one, but I do need to be > able to access that server, and it's responsible admin is no where to be > found. common sense and courtesy says you should contact ubiquity,

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 12:40 -0700, Aaron Glenn wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM, William Pitcock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can someone at Ubiquity or Mzima fix this routing loop: > > > > How long ago did you contact Ubiquity or Mzima? > Sadly, I don't have any co

Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM, William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone at Ubiquity or Mzima fix this routing loop: > How long ago did you contact Ubiquity or Mzima?

Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, Can someone at Ubiquity or Mzima fix this routing loop: traceroute to hg.atheme.org (72.37.225.164), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 64.62.134.193 12.402 ms 12.370 ms 12.363 ms 2 ge5-0.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (206.223.119.62) 16.003 ms 15.985 ms 15.964 ms 3 ge0-ubiquity.cust.ord01.mzim