Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-18 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Jay Ashworth writes: > - Original Message - >> From: "Jared Mauch" > >> network side. I'm personally not convinced of the value of very short >> lease times (less than an hour) > > Less than an hour, perhaps not. > > On small residential networks, though -- generally, anything where th

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Troy Martin
u have any quesrions. >>> >>> -mike >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:39, Meftah Tayeb wrote: >>> >>>> Ubiquity >>>> or ubikity, maybe is miss spelled >>>> Someone correct the sp

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Chris Burwell
igher densities.  You >>> really can't argue with Unifi's price. >>> >>> If you move up the price scale, Meraki seems to be a good midrange >>> solution, and they have some really sweet reporting functionality.  They're >>> mor

SV: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Andreas Larsen
Till: nanog@nanog.org Ämne: enterprise 802.11 I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space. what are the thoughts these days on

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
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Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Jon Sevier
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Ken King wrote: > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. > up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile > phones. > > we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office > space. > > what are the th

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jared Mauch" > network side. I'm personally not convinced of the value of very short > lease times (less than an hour) Less than an hour, perhaps not. On small residential networks, though -- generally, anything where the router (which will need to get re

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Brent Jones
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Ken King wrote: > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. > > up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile > phones. > > we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office > space. > > what are the t

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/15/12 11:30 , Ken King wrote: > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. > > up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. > > we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office > space. > > what are the thoughts these d

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jan 16, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Tim Franklin wrote: >> As for the iOS problem, read on here: >> http://www.net.princeton.edu/apple-ios/ios41-allows-lease-to-expire-keeps-using-IP-address.html > > That's the iOS issue - out of curiosity, what's the Mac issue? That's a poorly maintained device iss

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Tim Franklin
> As for the iOS problem, read on here: > http://www.net.princeton.edu/apple-ios/ios41-allows-lease-to-expire-keeps-using-IP-address.html That's the iOS issue - out of curiosity, what's the Mac issue? Regards, Tim.

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Greg Ihnen
00 devices / >>> AP. Of course, if one bad client comes along (with a card that doesn't >>> backoff its TX power, etc), it can wreak havoc with higher densities. You >>> really can't argue with Unifi's price. >>> >>> If you move up th

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Martin Hotze
...@anuragbhatia.com] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:44 PM To: Martin Hotze Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11 (...) You need to do a bit of site survey to get idea of how many AP's you really need. Remember it's open spectrum and running different bands from adjacent AP&

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Anurag Bhatia
m > > > > -Original Message- > > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:30:46 -0800 > > From: Ken King > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: enterprise 802.11 > > Message-ID: <36170983-eaa1-4bdd-b0af-5b045fd53...@yammer-inc.com> > > Content-Type: text

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Martin Hotze
- IMHO - to look into $isco. As for the iOS problem, read on here: http://www.net.princeton.edu/apple-ios/ios41-allows-lease-to-expire-keeps-using-IP-address.html #m > -Original Message- > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:30:46 -0800 > From: Ken King > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subj

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 21:30, Ken King wrote: > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. > > up to 600 devices will connect.  most devices are mac books and mobile phones. > > we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office > space. > > what are the though

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> Making APs as low power and "local" as possible is good advice ^ Ignoring this advice is one of the biggest mistakes people make. They think "Oh, I'll just drown out the noise", but the problem is almost never how well the clients can see the AP - it's the AP seeing the clients. It's hard to

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Roy
On 1/15/2012 11:30 AM, Ken King wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space. what are the thoughts these days on the

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Justin Krejci
No one has mentioned Belair yet? Serves the Minneapolis network pretty well. http://www.belairnetworks.com/ -Original Message- From: Greg Ihnen Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:06:26 To: Nathan Eisenberg Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11 Since we're already top-po

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: > Since we're already top-posting… > > I've heard a lot of talk on the WISPA (wireless ISP) forum that 802.11g/n > starts to fall apart with more than 30 clients associated if they're all > reasonably active. I believe this is a limitation of 80

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread David Casey
ity >>> or ubikity, maybe is miss spelled >>> Someone correct the spelling for him please >>> thank you >>> - Original Message - From: "Ken King" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:30 PM >>> Subject: enterprise

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Mike Lyon
ange solution, >> and they have some really sweet reporting functionality. They're more >> expensive, though. >> >> And then, yes, Cisco is the gold standard, but it will cost you some gold to >> get it. >> >> Nathan >> >>> -Original Mes

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Greg Ihnen
; And then, yes, Cisco is the gold standard, but it will cost you some gold to > get it. > > Nathan > >> -Original Message- >> From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:54 AM >> To: Meftah Tayeb >> Cc:

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Scott Bethke
On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Joe Johnson wrote: >> Meraki... ;^) > > Seconded! > I'd like to stick my neck out for Meraki also.. They rock. -Scott

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Brent Jones
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Ken King wrote: > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. > > up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile > phones. > > we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office > space. > > what are the t

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Stefan
+1 f/Aruba ... and check out the BlackHat conferences, also. On Jan 15, 2012 3:31 PM, "Rafael Rodriguez" wrote: > I'd recommend Aruba. Not a fan of the Cisco wifi controller gear. > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Ken King wrote: > > > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. >

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Joe Johnson
> Meraki... ;^) Seconded! Joe Johnson Chief Information Officer Riverside Consulting Group, Ltd. Innovative Technology Solutions 365 Addison Road Riverside, Illinois 60546 Phone: 708.442.6033 x3456 Fax: 708.443.4496 j...@riversidecg.com www.riversidecg.com

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Shahab Vahabzadeh
Any body tried "Proxim ORiNOCO AP-8000", I have them in two airport and they really sucks ;) On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Ken King wrote: > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. > > up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile > phones. > > we can

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Meftah Tayeb
cisco made the controller only to buy it? ubiquity or Mikrotik. END! - Original Message - From: "Rafael Rodriguez" To: "Ken King" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:31 PM Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11 I'd recommend Aruba. Not a fan of the Cisco wifi

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Network IP Dog
Meraki... ;^) http://www.meraki.com/ Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!! -Original Message- From: Ken King [mailto:kk...@yammer-inc.com] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:31 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: enterprise 802.11 I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
I'd recommend Aruba. Not a fan of the Cisco wifi controller gear. On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Ken King wrote: > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. > > up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile > phones. > > we can see hundreds of access poin

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Leigh Porter
I use ruckus in town and city installs and despite rather a lot of other APs it performs very well. I don't have experience of them in high connected station density though. -- Leigh Porter On 15 Jan 2012, at 19:33, "Ken King" wrote: > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Seth Mos
> or ubikity, maybe is miss spelled >>> Someone correct the spelling for him please >>> thank you >>> - Original Message - From: "Ken King" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:30 PM >>> Subject: enterprise 802.1

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
t reporting functionality. They're more expensive, though. And then, yes, Cisco is the gold standard, but it will cost you some gold to get it. Nathan > -Original Message- > From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:54 AM > To:

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Mike Hale
t the spelling for him please > > thank you > > - Original Message - From: "Ken King" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:30 PM > > Subject: enterprise 802.11 > > > > > > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. >

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Mike Lyon
k you > - Original Message - From: "Ken King" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:30 PM > Subject: enterprise 802.11 > > > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. > > up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Meftah Tayeb
Ubiquity or ubikity, maybe is miss spelled Someone correct the spelling for him please thank you - Original Message - From: "Ken King" To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:30 PM Subject: enterprise 802.11 I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 de

enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Ken King
I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space. what are the thoughts these days on the best enterprise solution/vendor? Thanks