Re: transit and peering costs projections

On 10/15/23 8:33 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:  I think we often forget just how much of a massive inversion the communications industry has undergone; back in the 80s, when I started working in networking, everything was DS0 voice channels, and data was just a strange side business that nobody in

Re: transit and peering costs projections

The issue in Houston is Dallas. I reached out to 30-40 networks and 90% of them all said they just back haul to Dallas and have no interest in peering in Houston. It’s a real hard town to get any traction in. If you’re local and have some insight, I’d be super happy to talk to you. Aaron >

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On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:47 AM Dave Taht wrote: > [...] > The three forms of traffic I care most about are voip, gaming, and > videoconferencing, which are rewarding to have at lower latencies. > When I was a kid, we had switched phone networks, and while the sound > quality was poorer than toda

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I agree, but there are fortunately several large content networks that have had the forethought to put their stuff in Houston - Meta, Fastly, Akamai, AWS just to name a few… There is enough of a need to warrant those other networks having a presence, so hopefully it’s just a matter of time befor

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For starters I would like to apologize for cc-ing both nanog and my new nn list. (I will add sender filters) A bit more below. On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:32 AM Tom Beecher wrote: >> >> So for now, we'll keep paying for transit to get to the others (since it’s >> about as much as transporting IXP

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> > So for now, we'll keep paying for transit to get to the others (since it’s > about as much as transporting IXP from Dallas), and hoping someone at > Google finally sees Houston as more than a third rate city hanging off of > Dallas. Or… someone finally brings a worthwhile IX to Houston that get

Re: transit and peering costs projections

On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:01:54 -0700 Dave Taht wrote: > This set of trendlines was very interesting. Unfortunately the data > stops in 2015. Does anyone have more recent data? This may be of interest: Peering Costs and Fees John

Re: transit and peering costs projections

st-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Tim Burke" To: "Dave Taht" Cc: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!" , "libreqos" , "NANOG" Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 10:45:47 PM

Re: [LibreQoS] transit and peering costs projections

Man, I wanna know where you’re getting 100g transit for $4500 a month! Even someone as fly by night as Cogent wants almost double that, unfortunately. On Oct 15, 2023, at 07:43, Jim Troutman wrote:  Transit 1G wholesale in the right DCs is below $500 per port. 10gigE full port can be had aro

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work Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!" , "libreqos" , "NANOG" Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 10:45:47 PM Subject: Re: transit and peering costs projections I would say that a 1Gbit IP transit in a carrier neutral DC can be had for

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ot;Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!" , "libreqos" , "NANOG" Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 6:01:54 PM Subject: transit and peering costs projections This set of trendlines was very interesting. Unfortunately the data sto

Re: [LibreQoS] transit and peering costs projections

Transit 1G wholesale in the right DCs is below $500 per port. 10gigE full port can be had around $1k-1.5k month on long term deals from multiple sources. 100g IP transit ports start around $4k. The cost of transport (dark or wavelength) is generally at least as much as the IP transit cost, and

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: Saturday, October 14, 2023 8:45 PM >> To: Dave Taht >> Cc: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this >> time! ; libreqos >> ; NANOG >> Subject: Re: transit and peering costs projections Caution: This is an >> external email and ma

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> On Oct 15, 2023, at 01:01, Dave Taht wrote: > I am under the impression that many IXPs remain very successful, I know of 760 active IXPs, out of 1,148 total, so, over 31 years, two-thirds are still successful now. Obviously they didn’t all start 31 years ago, they started on a gradually-acce

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er 14, 2023 8:45 PM > To: Dave Taht > Cc: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this > time! ; libreqos > ; NANOG > Subject: Re: transit and peering costs projections > > Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take c

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NANOG Subject: Re: transit and peering costs projections Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. I would say that a 1Gbit IP transit in a carrier neutral DC can be had for a good bit less than $900 on the wholesale m

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t Cc: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time! ; libreqos ; NANOG Subject: Re: transit and peering costs projections Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. I would say that a 1Gb

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I would say that a 1Gbit IP transit in a carrier neutral DC can be had for a good bit less than $900 on the wholesale market. Sadly, IXP’s are seemingly turning into a pay to play game, with rates almost costing as much as transit in many cases after you factor in loop costs. For example, in t

Re: [NNagain] transit and peering costs projections

I’m a couple years removed from dealing with this on the provider side but the focus has shifted rapidly to adding core capacity and large capacity ports to the extent that smaller capacity ports like 1 Gbps aren’t going to see much more price compression. Cost per bit will come down at higher t

transit and peering costs projections

This set of trendlines was very interesting. Unfortunately the data stops in 2015. Does anyone have more recent data? https://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing-Historical-And-Projected.php I believe a gbit circuit that an ISP can resell still runs at about $900 - $1.4k (?) in th