Re: [Nanog-futures] WBN and NANOG-Crashing

2010-07-02 Thread vijay gill
adam, stop muck raking. in general, I'd advocate spending less time on mailing lists and focusing more on delivering great product. /vijay On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Adam Rothschild asr+nanog-futu...@latency.net wrote: I've been trying to avoid this topic, though as one of few

Re: [Nanog-futures] wazza plan

2010-05-27 Thread vijay gill
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: nanog/sf approaches.  will our illustrious leadership be sending out at least the basics of a business plan long enough before the meeting that we have time to treat it seriously as opposed to flying foils at the so called

Re: [Nanog-futures] wazza plan

2010-05-27 Thread vijay gill
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: nanog/sf approaches.  will our illustrious leadership be sending out at least the basics of a business plan long enough before the meeting that we have time to treat it seriously as opposed to flying foils at the so called

Re: [Nanog-futures] [NANOG-announce] The Evolution of NANOG

2010-04-15 Thread vijay gill
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Steve Meuse sme...@mara.org wrote: Randy Bush expunged (ra...@psg.com): thanks steve.  this is certainly a step forward in nanog's evolution, and one i hope and presume will be positive.  hard work for you, but really it's mostly just business.  we did it with

Re: [Nanog-futures] [NANOG-announce] The Evolution of NANOG

2010-04-15 Thread vijay gill
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Steve Meuse sme...@mara.org wrote: vijay gill expunged (vg...@vijaygill.com): I'll second that. I'll admit to my jaw dropping when I read the announcement, but I think it's the direction we need to go (and maybe even long overdue). Merit has done a great

Re: [Nanog-futures] [NANOG-announce] The Evolution of NANOG

2010-04-15 Thread vijay gill
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Steve Meuse sme...@mara.org wrote: vijay gill expunged (vg...@vijaygill.com): What were some specific issues. It's not my intention to re-hash that last four years of community meetings (maybe you some show up more frequently?) :) I have been to a few

Re: [Nanog-futures] Bhutan discovers the NANOG Problem...

2008-07-15 Thread vijay gill
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let this be a vote for *no* on shutting off net access. It's not really an either/or situation. There are ways to have both, and, as we both pointed out, there are good reasons why speakers should not assume that room full of

Re: [Nanog-futures] Rudeness because presenters suck.

2008-07-15 Thread vijay gill
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Alan Clegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Hughes wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, vijay gill wrote: In short, instead of coercive action, how about the presenters learn to be more relevant, interesting, or fun

Re: [Nanog-futures] level of fail [was: The Peering BOF and the Fallout?]

2008-02-25 Thread vijay gill
On 2/24/08, Patrick W. Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 4:19 AM, vijay gill wrote: I would like the voice my support for the peering bof, it is by far the most entertaining item at nanog. You cannot see this much level of fail in one place, and for this reason alone

Re: [Nanog-futures] The Peering BOF and the Fallout?

2008-02-24 Thread vijay gill
On 2/24/08, Chris Malayter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings All, What's the deal with the Peering BOF for NY? I've heard rumors running wild that we're not going to have one, we're going to have one but Bill isn't going to run it, to we're moving to a peering track and a track bases

Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please

2007-12-03 Thread vijay gill
On 12/3/07, Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions of NANOG and that they believe