On 12/28/10 10:13 AM, laperriere.syl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Early bird registrations provide cash flow to make hotel deposit commitments.
> If all members get early birds rate and register at the last possible
> minute, that dings the cash flow and increase liabilities for the organizer
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From: Daniel Golding
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:51:09
To: Randy Bush
Cc: Nanog Futures
Subject: Re: [Nanog-futures]
an alternate proposal for NewNOG
’s membership structure
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>
> bottom line: i do not think you should be disappointed in a model that
> is conservative and estimates 200 paying members. i will be happy to
> be wrong.
>
> randy
>
This.
If we get 500 members, I'll be really happy. But if we get 200, it
> Would it help to think of it this way?
>
> If you're a member, you don't have to worry about making the
> early registration deadline -- you always get it.
or, there is no early registration discount. there is a late
registration penalty.
[ which is what it usually is, as late regs are more c
i see your point. not sure how you are suggesting to deal with it. i
think there is basic physics behind only expecting 200 paying
members. my model is that
0 there are a dozen or so people who actually DO a lot for the
organization. they'll keep working and attending as long as
they
Dan,
I think you missed that I do want to keep people who do not come to
meetings involved if they wish to and want to keep membership costs
down as far as possible, but I don't want to lose participation of those
spending several $K a year to attend meetings and balk at them paying
for a membersh
I must disagree to some degree - there are plenty of folks who participate
in the mailing list but can't attend every meeting. These folks deserve a
chance to fully participate.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> I think that 200 may be a bit optimistic. Again, I worry tha
I think that 200 may be a bit optimistic. Again, I worry that this will
move control of NewNOG away from those who really are most involved.
In the past, the discussion was that the discount would (or credit
towards registration) would be such that attending two meetings a year
would take care of
The math works out in funding. The membership line item is not a huge
revenue item for the organization after year 2. Still, it does need to be
big enough to provide buy-in, as you said.
I'm sort of split on this. There certainly needs to be a discount, and folks
who are members and attend all thr
On 12/17/10 10:34 AM, Duane Wessels wrote:
>
> On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Jay Hennigan wrote:
>
>> This proposal seems to state that if one registers early for a meeting
>> the membership discount is forfeited. This doesn't seem right.
>
>
> Would it help to think of it this way?
>
> If yo
On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Jay Hennigan wrote:
> This proposal seems to state that if one registers early for a meeting
> the membership discount is forfeited. This doesn't seem right.
Would it help to think of it this way?
If you're a member, you don't have to worry about making the
early
My only objection is if the early registration price and the membership
discount can't be combined.
I think that most of us use the early-bird registration option, it's not
called a "discount" on the present website.
This proposal seems to state that if one registers early for a meeting
the membe
Steve -
I like it - simple.
Just to make sure I understand the thoughts behind the pricing model...
With the membership fee at $100/year, if one attends all three NANOGs in a
year, and gets a $25 per meeting discount, then the cost to be a member ends up
costing about $25/year. Pretty cheap me
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From: Joe Abley
On 2010-12-16, at 20:31, Steve Feldman wrote:
> Please read the proposal (it's short!) and comment.
I think this is great.
+1
David Barak
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On 2010-12-16, at 20:31, Steve Feldman wrote:
> Please read the proposal (it's short!) and comment.
I think this is great.
Joe
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Steve,
At last! Something that does not strike me as defective by design! Thank
you.
Based on the last financials I saw, I'd really like to see the discount
on meetings be something more than $25. That mean $0 for those of us who
register early. I would really hope that we can do better.
--
R. K
This seems much more sensible than anything else I've seen in the past.
-dorian
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 05:31:18PM -0800, Steve Feldman wrote:
> In order to jump-start the process of defining a membership structure
> for NewNOG, I wrote an alternative proposal. My goals were to keep it
> as
Satisfies all of my criticism with the previously proposed membership
structure.
joel
On 12/16/10 5:31 PM, Steve Feldman wrote:
> In order to jump-start the process of defining a membership structure
> for NewNOG, I wrote an alternative proposal. My goals were to keep it
> as simple and shor
> 1.2 Student discount
>
> Students enrolled in an undergraduate or graduate degree program
> at an accredited institution will receive a 50% discount for annual
> dues. Proof of enrollment is required. This may not be combined
> with any other discount.
often, in other groups, this has a full-
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 05:31:18PM -0800, Steve Feldman wrote:
> In order to jump-start the process of defining a membership structure
> for NewNOG, I wrote an alternative proposal. My goals were to keep it
> as simple and short as possible, and address the concerns which came
> up during th
In order to jump-start the process of defining a membership structure
for NewNOG, I wrote an alternative proposal. My goals were to keep it
as simple and short as possible, and address the concerns which came
up during the election and afterwards.
There are two parts, a Bylaws amendment to
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