[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-25 Thread Nick
On Jun 24, 7:59 pm, Wayne de Geere III wa...@degeere.com wrote: This story is breaking my heart. For that sort of breakage, it would have made sense to fly out there and pack them up yourselves. I have to admit, the mea culpas i carry with me would make grown men cry, I know how this feels.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-25 Thread jb-electronics
Anyone ever thought of fixing the tubes? I think the hardest part is the seal between the pins and the glass, and if that part was still intact (which in many cases it is, because it is the most stable glass part of the tube), wouldn't it be possible to add a new cap to the tube? I.e. some

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread Jonathan Peakall
Glad I live off the grid and don't use the mains for timing my clocks. I won't notice a thing... Jonathan Of possible interest. A lot of my clocks use the grid as a reference. http://goo.gl/KhgtQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread jb-electronics
Personally, I do not understand what the benefit is of using the mains frequency. I always use a 4.194304MHz Quarz and so far all my clocks' accuracies are very satisfactory. Best regards, Jens Am 25.06.2011 19:57, schrieb Jonathan Peakall: Glad I live off the grid and don't use the mains for

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread Instrument Resources of America
The mains frequency, at least here in the U.S. is always being corrected for small variances that occur in the frequency during the day. Therefore the overall error is none over a years time. Clocks are therefore always accurate and never need resetting, unless of course there is a power

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread JohnK
Maybe you missed this earlier piece of info:- http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5giHrMC9wYlOzOkUg9wNC2jVKugkw?docId=371623ab59694aef9f0a02fe83faca8a john k. - Original Message - From: Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net The mains frequency, at least

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread Instrument Resources of America
I agree. I wonder what is REALLY behind this?? Something smells rotten with this.!!!Ira. On 6/25/2011 6:05 AM, Joe Croft wrote: This does suck in a lot of ways. I like how they say it will be a lot harder to control not with things like wind and solar. I don't see why, I suspect most

[neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Jun 25, 5:04 pm, Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net wrote: I agree.  I wonder what is REALLY behind this??   Something smells rotten with this.!!!    Ira. Indeed. Normally the 60Hz runs low during the day and makes it up at night. The frequency drops due to large

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Hello John, YES!! I did read it , and for the life of me I can NOT figure out what the REAL TRUTH is behind doing this. My comment was meant to be past tense. Thanks, Ira. On 6/25/2011 1:45 PM, JohnK wrote: Maybe you missed this earlier piece of info:-

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread H. Carl Ott
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net wrote: Hello John,    YES!!  I did read it , and for the life of me I can NOT figure out what the REAL TRUTH is behind doing this. My comment was meant to be past tense.  Thanks,  Ira. I think it's a

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 11-06-25 02:01 PM, jb-electronics wrote: Personally, I do not understand what the benefit is of using the mains frequency. I always use a 4.194304MHz Quarz and so far all my clocks' accuracies are very satisfactory. The benefit WAS that the Hydro Utilities always averaged out the frequency

[neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread neutron spin
I think the original idea of grid frequency maintenance is when clocks were purely mechanical before the digital era. They of course were just synchronous A.C. motors that were terribly inaccurate without the synchonization to the power grid's frequency. This also was before GPS and

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread Instrument Resources of America
A LOT of today's 'digital' clocks are still locked up to the power line frequency, which is still the quickest, easiest, most in expensive way of maintaining accuracy. Some are locked to either GPS or NIST 60 khz broadcasts.Ira On 6/25/2011 5:14 PM, neutron spin wrote: I think the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread neutron spin
Yes ...that was a clever and (cheap) method of creating a relatively accurate time base but with modern technology there really is no reason to keep this method. Of course existing designs that use the grid's frequency are going to have to live with it. Similar to going from analog TV

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread Wayne de Geere III
My mother in law handed me an article today about this from their local paper and asked if my funny tube clocks are still going to work. WIth the exception of my MOD6 clocks, I'm all GPS over here but I'd be a bit bummed that the masters of 60Hz have unilaterally decided to screw with that to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread Wayne de Geere III
Now we're all going to need to GPS or use an atomic time standard to discipline our mechanical flip clocks like http://leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-nixie/ On 2011 Jun 25, at 19:14 , neutron spin wrote: I think the original idea of grid frequency maintenance is when clocks were purely

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-25 Thread Nicholas Stock
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-Burroughs-B-7971-B7971-Nixie-Tube-Vintage-Rare-NOS-/280702018540?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2hash=item415b24e3ec#ht_1234wt_1141 Too rich for my blood! On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:26 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote: ** Very strange. A batch of mine that I could on ebay (11 of

[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-25 Thread MichaelB
OK, It appears they DO exist! I would like to see a shot of those mummified relics before I become a true believer. And if they prove to be real...a $445/2 believer, I will never be! On Jun 25, 9:55 pm, Nicholas Stock nickst...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-25 Thread Michail1
How did you find them so fast after posting? In a message dated 6/25/2011 9:55:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, nickst...@gmail.com writes: _http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-Burroughs-B-7971-B7971-Nixie-Tube-Vintage-Rare-NOS-/ 280702018540?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2hash=item415b24e3ec#ht_1234wt_1141_

[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-25 Thread MichaelB
Ok, sowhat am I missing hereNOS with burn marks?? I guess most of mine are NOS too then! Hot Diggity!! I'll be puttin' mine on the market for $222 each tomorrow too! On Jun 25, 9:55 pm, Nicholas Stock nickst...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-25 Thread John Rehwinkel
OK, It appears they DO exist! I would like to see a shot of those mummified relics before I become a true believer. And if they prove to be real...a $445/2 believer, I will never be! I have seen some more convincing NOS auctions (the tubes packed 36 per carton in styrofoam trays). These

[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-25 Thread MichaelB
Bitcoin mining, Michail On Jun 25, 10:23 pm, micha...@aol.com wrote: How did you find them so fast after posting? In a message dated 6/25/2011 9:55:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,   nickst...@gmail.com writes: _http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-Burroughs-B-7971-B7971-Nixie-Tube-Vintage-Rare...