[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-27 Thread MichaelB
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-27 Thread Ray Fenwick
My wife's from Saratov. She's in Moscow at the moment, but will be going to visit family soon I think - I'll ask her to find out. Ray On 27 Jun 2011, at 02:43, Terry Kennedy wrote: From what I read, Svetlana operates out of Saratov using part of the old Reflector factory. I could be

[neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-27 Thread Larry
I recently completed a Kabtronics Nixie clock that uses line frequency. Now I'm going to have to add a 60Hz generator to it. Thanks for the link. On Jun 26, 11:05 am, neutron spin mrstan...@charter.net wrote: It's a conspiracy between Elm electronics the FERC.

[neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-27 Thread neutron spin
You are quite welcome. The chip is actually a microcontroller that coded to produce the 60, 50 or 1 Hz signals. The 60 Hz version will flip back and forth between the grid freq and the micro. I think it is a Microchip MCU but not sure. Simple way of ensuring the clock always has a clock

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-27 Thread Adam Jacobs
It's a clever idea, shouldn't be too hard to implement in an equivalent AVR chip (Tiny12) or whatever. At $10 a pop, given the number of clocks I have, it'd definitely be worth writing some simple code. I was already planning on doing the 60hz generator uC code, the colorburst crystal

[neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-27 Thread neutron spin
Personally I am going to use my old standby. the Heliochronometer On 27 June, 16:03, J Forbes jforbnos...@selectric.org wrote: I wonder how I'm gonna get that neat flapper mechanical clock to keep time after the experiment starts? Or my scope clock? or my TTL nixie clock? or my old Cathode

[neonixie-l] Threads...

2011-06-27 Thread Nick
People, Please PLEASE can you: a) Not change the subject of a thread half way through... b) Not start a new thread with a subtly different subject to the one you really meant to reply to. Google does not provide a way for the moderators to join fractured threads or to split those that have had

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-27 Thread Adam Jacobs
Ya, I certainly don't mind supporting other people's work. It's a time/cost tradeoff in my case, though. I have probably 10-12 clocks that I'd like to modify.. for $100ish dollars, it is worth it to me to put in the hour of work. If it was less money (or more difficult) then I wouldn't mind it

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-27 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 11-06-27 02:21 PM, Adam Jacobs wrote: the colorburst crystal surprises me, though. Is the colorburst crystal higher accuracy than a standard cheap 8mhz or whatever? The only thing I know of colorburst crystals from is that they are popular in 80m homemade CW rigs for obvious reasons. I

[neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-27 Thread threeneurons
http://www.elmelectronics.com/ebench.html#Oscillators | Larry unmitigated_f...@earthlink.net wrote: | I recently completed a Kabtronics Nixie clock that uses line | frequency.  Now I'm going to have to add a 60Hz generator to it. | Thanks for the link. If you can change the input source (3.58MHz

[neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-27 Thread neutron spin
Also many of the cheaply designed nixie clocks just use a cheap 4 Mhz or whatever the design uses and these are usually rated at 10 to 20 PPM. Color burst crystals can be found with similar tolerancesso what's the difference unless you are using temperature compensated oscillators..I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-27 Thread David Forbes
On 6/27/11 5:09 PM, threeneurons wrote: A typical crystal has 30 to 50 ppm accuracy, or between 15 to 26 minutes off, in a year. You'll get no improvement with a common crystal. You might just as well just stick with the line sync, and just occasionally hit that minute button, to correct the