Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Hello Charles, It is there. 0Z4, 0Z4G, along with 0Z4A.This appears to be an oddity. As far as the JEDEC files in the TCA 'data cache' go the 0Z4G is listed in the INDEX under "Main type", and references the same exact release number as the plain 0Z4 of #49. Upon opening up release #49 there is

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 14-04-02 05:19 PM, Instrument Resources of America wrote: P.S. Maybe someone here can elaborate on why Raytheon numbered it as 0Z4G rather than 0Z4GT which would have made more sense, and adhered to "industry tube standards". As I do not have clue. Ira. I looked and could not find the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 14-04-02 04:15 PM, Grahame Marsh wrote: Isn't the 0Z4 in a metal can? Nice! So a 0Z4G is OK, Thaen is the next sorrow to meet a minimum current of 30mA, needed for maintaining the conduction. I love that 0Z4G! One of the long line of "exception to the rule" the 0Z4G is a cute little gl

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Instrument Resources of America
P.S. Maybe someone here can elaborate on why Raytheon numbered it as 0Z4G rather than 0Z4GT which would have made more sense, and adhered to "industry tube standards". As I do not have clue. Ira. On 4/2/2014 2:01 PM, Instrument Resources of America wrote: Upon further investigation in TC

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Upon further investigation in TCA's data cache, I find the following, 0Z4 first registered by Raytheon on Oct 24th 1935 with a metal shell which tapered down in size as it got closer to the top of the metal shell, an 0Z4A first registered by Raytheon on Oct 15th 1956, with the standard metal sh

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Instrument Resources of America
By the way Grahame, FYI, they were used extensively, (and only???) as the cold cathode full wave rectifiers, in vibrator type power supplies, for automobile radios. I know of no other use, but might be interesting to see what others here may say on that. Ira. On 4/2/2014 1:30 PM, Grahame

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Grahame Marsh
Right, I've only seen the metal can version - that was a few years ago as well. G On 02/04/2014 21:21, Instrument Resources of America wrote: P.S. Pic enclosed here of 0Z4G.Ira. On 4/2/2014 1:15 PM, Grahame Marsh wrote: Isn't the 0Z4 in a metal can? :D On 02/04/2014 20:39, Tidak Ada

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Instrument Resources of America
P.S. Pic enclosed here of 0Z4G.Ira. On 4/2/2014 1:15 PM, Grahame Marsh wrote: Isn't the 0Z4 in a metal can? :D On 02/04/2014 20:39, Tidak Ada wrote: Nice! So a 0Z4G is OK, Thaen is the next sorrow to meet a minimum current of 30mA, needed for maintaining the conduction. I love that 0Z

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread David Forbes
0Z4 is metal. 0Z4G is glass. 0Z4GT is glass, but tubular, not curvaceous. On 4/2/2014 1:15 PM, Grahame Marsh wrote: Isn't the 0Z4 in a metal can? :D On 02/04/2014 20:39, Tidak Ada wrote: Nice! So a 0Z4G is OK, Thaen is the next sorrow to meet a minimum current of 30mA, needed for maintaining

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Instrument Resources of America
There were TWO versions, metal can with octal base, which by far and away was the majority of them, and also a GLASS version, 0Z4G. Ira. On 4/2/2014 1:15 PM, Grahame Marsh wrote: Isn't the 0Z4 in a metal can? :D On 02/04/2014 20:39, Tidak Ada wrote: Nice! So a 0Z4G is OK, Thaen is the nex

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Grahame Marsh
Isn't the 0Z4 in a metal can? :D On 02/04/2014 20:39, Tidak Ada wrote: Nice! So a 0Z4G is OK, Thaen is the next sorrow to meet a minimum current of 30mA, needed for maintaining the conduction. I love that 0Z4G! eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonix

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Tidak Ada
Nice! So a 0Z4G is OK, Thaen is the next sorrow to meet a minimum current of 30mA, needed for maintaining the conduction. I love that 0Z4G! eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Rehwinkel Sent: woensdag 2 april 20

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread John Rehwinkel
> May be an open mercury vapor rectifier, like a 866 (not an 866A !) does the > same. If you can get one with lower heater consumption it is better for your > electricity bill. > Don't know what spectrum OSAGE rectifiers radiate. anyhow they have no > filament. > Any other small mercury tubes th

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Tidak Ada
May be an open mercury vapor rectifier, like a 866 (not an 866A !) does the same. If you can get one with lower heater consumption it is better for your electricity bill. Don't know what spectrum OSAGE rectifiers radiate. anyhow they have no filament. Any other small mercury tubes that could do the

[neonixie-l] Re: Touch sensitive Nixe?

2014-04-02 Thread Jon
If that were the cause, then I'd recommend a vigorous shake to remix the gases :) Seriously though, the contents of your tube are 98%+ neon, with the balance being argon and possibly a trace of mercury vapour. No air of any description in there, else it wouldn't glow at all under the voltage a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Grahame Marsh
Perhaps I should use something less vivacious, yes. At first I just left the strip light over the workshop bench on (40W at 1.5m) and that was fine as well. I used the pond lamp as I had a spare to hand - it needs to go out to the pond filter box now it is spring. Perhaps a "black light" la

[neonixie-l] Re: Touch sensitive Nixe?

2014-04-02 Thread Paul Parry
Many thanks for the advice, I raised the voltage to 180v and the tube seemed to behave more like I would expect and at 190v was ok. However the other tubes in the multiplex developed a hazy pink glow so I quickly turned the voltage back down. I can only conclude that the tube is on its last l