Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread JohnK
Ira and Matthew... I had a browse of Kohl. Chpt 15 is Cathode Materials and Structures, pages 519 - 573. There are seven pages of References. If I knew which of the boggins of cathode materials are involved it would be easier. Too much info :-( Many cathodes start with a carbonate and

[neonixie-l] News Flash - Do you collect tubes or semiconductors?

2014-04-29 Thread JohnK
Many of your tubes probably should be in your semiconductor collection. And, if semiconductor is a dirty word, then in the bin ! Reference:- Kohl, Materials and Techniques for Electron Tubes A completely revised edition of Materials Technology for Electron Tubes., 1960, Reinhold. Page 551

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Per Jensen
Den 28/04/2014 kl. 22.47 skrev Matthew Smith m...@smiffytech.com: Quoth Tidak Ada at 2014-04-29 06:13 ... I once opened a 50 cm B/W picture tube to make a lamp of it. I carefully packed the tube in thick blankets and then filed off the exhaust nipple. About one minute of hissing and the

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Hello John, Please let us know what you find. Thanks Ira. On 4/29/2014 12:26 AM, JohnK wrote: Ira and Matthew... I had a browse of Kohl. Chpt 15 is Cathode Materials and Structures, pages 519 - 573. There are seven pages of References. If I knew which of the boggins of cathode

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread NeonJohn
OK, I've repurposed 2 gun assemblies. Let me describe the process. As y'all found out the indirectly heated cathode is coated with a strontium/barium/calcium carbonate mixture. During processing this is turned into oxides by simply heating the filament while under vacuum. When vented to air,

RE: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Tidak Ada
Ira, My experience is that cathodes lay in trays in the factory. About 250 n a tray, that was sealed before it went to the production. So I believe that exposition to air will degrade the cathode, but not destroy it immediately. However it could be that the first warm-up initiates a chemical

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Hello Tidak, You are absolutely correct in that the first warm up to 'higher than normal temperatures' does in fact activate the cathode material/coating. Go here http://www.earlytelevision.org/15GP22_rebuild_report.html and near the bottom of the page, the second sentence just

RE: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread B Otto
Well, none of my hobbies are cheap. Energy efficient either! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread B Otto
About a decade ago I made some incandescent light bulbs out of surplus labware for a client. I made my prototypes with 250 ml e flasks and the final bulbs with 2,000 ml flasks. I had great luck working with the pyrex glass without a cooling oven. Two of the three finals burned for over 200

RE: [neonixie-l] News Flash - Do you collect tubes or semiconductors?

2014-04-29 Thread Tidak Ada
Don't forget, the mayor part of tubes is...silicon oxide ! eric _ From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JohnK Sent: dinsdag 29 april 2014 9:40 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com; tubecollectorsassociat...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l]

RE: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Tidak Ada
And again there is closing a CRT rebuilding plant. This time in France. A bit too far from my home. See the mail I received from Giorgio. No TCA members in the direct environment... Anyhow, they would have cathodes. eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com