Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

2014-06-07 Thread gregeb...@hotmail.com
Nixie tubes have an internal pressure of about 1/100 atmospheric (basically a vacuum), so I would be more concerned about atmospheric gases, such as oxygen, leaking-in rather than the neon leaking out. I suppose you could buy some spares and store them in a container pressurized with Neon; I wo

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

2014-06-07 Thread Nicholas Stock
Darin, I don't mean to be rude, but I think you're over analyzing this somewhat. The gas mixtures are pretty similar throughout most types of nixie tubes (Penning mixtures as Eric pointed out). Nixie tubes have been in storage for decades and still run fine (remarkably). Some tubes fail quickly ove

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

2014-06-07 Thread Dman777
Hmm...ok, I re-read it again for the 3rd time. "Many tubes have some radio active material (solid or gas) to enhance the ignition. Depending on the isotope used long storage can half the activity due to natural decay of the isotope (Half life time)" -Assuming the Penning mixture is neon and a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: OSHW Electrostatic CRT Driver Design

2014-06-07 Thread Cqr
Me too, I'm in Bristol. On 7 Jun 2014, at 20:29, "'Ian Vine' via neonixie-l" wrote: > I'm up for a set > Ian > > On 7 Jun 2014, at 17:51, Nick wrote: > >> The boards come in multiples of 3 - I'd like to order one of each of the >> three boards (I'm in the UK), not 3 or each (i.e. 9 total)

RE: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

2014-06-07 Thread Tidak Ada
Please read this thread : [neonixie-l] Cathode poisoning- from being off? _ From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dman777 Sent: zaterdag 7 juni 2014 22:07 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

2014-06-07 Thread Dman777
So, the Z5660M's are using neon and argon? How well would those gases retain in glass tubes from 1985? On Saturday, June 7, 2014 3:01:59 PM UTC-5, Tidak Ada wrote: > > Mainly Penning mixtures [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penning_mixture ] > > eric > > -- > *From

RE: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

2014-06-07 Thread Tidak Ada
Mainly Penning mixtures [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penning_mixture ] eric _ From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dman777 Sent: zaterdag 7 juni 2014 21:12 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- Wh

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: OSHW Electrostatic CRT Driver Design

2014-06-07 Thread 'Ian Vine' via neonixie-l
I'm up for a set Ian On 7 Jun 2014, at 17:51, Nick wrote: > The boards come in multiples of 3 - I'd like to order one of each of the > three boards (I'm in the UK), not 3 or each (i.e. 9 total) as its quite > expensive to order otherwise, > > Are there two other UK/Europe types who would shar

[neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

2014-06-07 Thread Dman777
I am about to the trigger and go for a clock kit with Z5660M Tubes unused. They were manufactured in 1985. I know there are a lot variables involved...like the gas used in them. Does anyone know what kind of gas these used? If the tubes from 1985 are good? If they should of aged ok with no issu

Re: [neonixie-l] Cathode poisoning- from being off?

2014-06-07 Thread Nicholas Stock
If the tubes are in storage, then there are no active cathodes because they're not turned on. On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Dman777 wrote: > Hi, > > I'm confused > > "... to inactive cathodes (non-illuminated) over a long period of time. It >> does not happen when the tube is in storage.

RE: [neonixie-l] Cathode poisoning- from being off?

2014-06-07 Thread Tidak Ada
In storage there are two items that can decrease the working of the tube: 1. Many tubes have some radio active material (solid or gas) to enhance the ignition. Depending on the isotope used long storage can half the activity due to natural decay of the isotope (Half life time) 2.

Re: [neonixie-l] Cathode poisoning- from being off?

2014-06-07 Thread Dman777
Hi, I'm confused "... to inactive cathodes (non-illuminated) over a long period of time. It > does not happen when the tube is in storage." Wouldn't 'inactive cathodes (non-illuminated)' constitute a tube in storage? Thanks, -Darin On Friday, June 6, 2014 11:53:22 PM UTC-5, Pramanici

[neonixie-l] Re: OSHW Electrostatic CRT Driver Design

2014-06-07 Thread Nick
The boards come in multiples of 3 - I'd like to order one of each of the three boards (I'm in the UK), not 3 or each (i.e. 9 total) as its quite expensive to order otherwise, Are there two other UK/Europe types who would share costs with me - I've done some larger group buys before (e.g. Pete H

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Power supply?

2014-06-07 Thread Bane Cvetković
Sweet, I'm ordering one. Thanks! -- Bane Cvetković On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Jon wrote: > > Yes, it will be fine. One of John Taylor's 1364 modules powers my 42 tube > clock (http://youtu.be/4FnxWsp58EM) without breaking sweat. That > design is multiplexed, but there are up to 14 tubes