Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-19 Thread JohnK
I told this story here to the previous generation of readers... In a facility where I worked for a few years back in the mid-1970s there was also a two-rack-cabinet trigger tube monster. Its task was to check the teletype data that was arriving over an HF radio network. When [parity] errors were

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-19 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
W dniu wtorek, 18 kwietnia 2017 15:46:38 UTC+2 użytkownik jrehwin napisał: > > - while testing it I found out that striking voltage of tubes is a max > value - I've tested one Z567M and one LC-631, they both strike with > voltages lower than their normal maintaing voltage! > > > Yes, it's a

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
W dniu środa, 19 kwietnia 2017 19:19:51 UTC+2 użytkownik mikeselectricstuff napisał: > > > Kickstarter. > I don't think kickstarter is a good idea to start a business. Of course, if something goes wrong and the money gets essentially wasted, no one can blame you if you spent it on research,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Remains of a pandicon calculator

2017-04-19 Thread gregebert
Clockulator - Functions as a calculator but times-out to be a clock if no keys are pressed after a few minutes ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Remains of a pandicon calculator

2017-04-19 Thread Jonathan Peakall
Yeah, I wouldn't rip it apart either. But I might sneaky make it into a clock, so it could easily be put back. Or make a calculator for it. One way or another I'd find a way to use that sexy pandicon. On 4/19/2017 11:36 AM, 'Terry S' via neonixie-l wrote: By the way, the calculator in that TW

Re: [neonixie-l] Remains of a pandicon calculator

2017-04-19 Thread Jonathan Peakall
Very cool and nice score! I'm totally envious! I bought the remains of a nixie calculator from ebay a week ago. It has an eight-digit pandicon-tube on it and is fully working. The Case is missing. It's still beautiful to me and i though i'd share this with you :) Very interesting is the

[neonixie-l] Re: Remains of a pandicon calculator

2017-04-19 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
By the way, the calculator in that TW link is the unit I donated/traded/sold (can't really recall) to the "curator" of the online classic computer museum. I've had two of those pass thru my hands. Could never bring myself to tear them apart for the Pandicon. Terry On Wednesday, April 19, 2017

[neonixie-l] Re: Remains of a pandicon calculator

2017-04-19 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
Dang I'm sorry I missed that! Nice find! On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 1:10:39 PM UTC-5, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote: > > I bought the remains of a nixie calculator from ebay a week ago. It has an > eight-digit pandicon-tube on it and is fully working. The Case is missing. > > It's still

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Mike Harrison
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:59:59 -0700, you wrote: >You never stated what you think the minimum quantity is (at $25 per >unit) to start making money. > > >On 4/19/2017 2:52 AM, Aiden Koh wrote: >> I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. >> With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread David Forbes
You never stated what you think the minimum quantity is (at $25 per unit) to start making money. On 4/19/2017 2:52 AM, Aiden Koh wrote: I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to manufacture In-18/Z568M inspired nixie tubes, at a fraction

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread gregebert
I'd suggest you start with an IN-18 first, preferrably one that is electrically and mechanically interchangeable. If you can get the pin-to-glass seals to pass a helium leak-test, I'd say you have cleared a major production hurdle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread JohnK
Hmm, are you talking QA or QC? By 'product engineer' you make it sound as if you think you can treat the process like a 'recipe'. You are relying on experts in the various fields required rather than having any direct knowledge yourself? High quality components can make a high quality dud too

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Nicholas Stock
If you can indeed deliver on that promise you will *have no trouble* selling a large quantity of tubes. However, given some of the pitfalls of new tube manufacturing that Dalibor has encountered (and mostly solved) then I wouldn't take this project on lightly. What is your minimum threshold

[neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread alb.001 alb.001
At about $25  I would buy at least 12 to start.  A serial factory built ISO qualified product would get lots of interest just to compete with the Russian suppliers who obviously have vast stores of ( now overpriced) older by the day nixies. My 2 cents worth Phil B --

[neonixie-l] Re: Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread barefoot1
I also agree with Terry S. Dalibor is making excellent Nixie tubes and I think his quality is excellent bar none. Watching Dalibor's video of the complete manufacturing process is a thing of beauty. If you can compete with Dalibor give it a run it would be an interesting Nixie to see. I wish

[neonixie-l] Re: Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Aiden Koh
Hi Terry:) I understand your skepticism, after all, we have been accepting high prices for large tubes for so long, honestly we have grown used to it. Dalibor does an extremely great job as a "boutique" nixie tube builder; think of his method as the Rolls Royce approach, hand-built, limited

[neonixie-l] Re: Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread barefoot1
On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Terry S wrote: > > Dalibor is already making very high quality tubes, and it took him years > to perfect his process. I'm skeptical of your claim of a sub $25 price. But > if you can produce them, you will surely find a ready market. > > On

[neonixie-l] Re: Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
Dalibor is already making very high quality tubes, and it took him years to perfect his process. I'm skeptical of your claim of a sub $25 price. But if you can produce them, you will surely find a ready market. On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 4:52:06 AM UTC-5, Aiden Koh wrote: > > I'm a product

[neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Aiden Koh
I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to manufacture In-18/Z568M inspired nixie tubes, at a fraction of their market costs (sub 25 USD/pc). I don't compromise on quality. hence, it will be built with parts mostly sourced from the US, and

[neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Aiden Koh
I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to manufacture In-18/Z568M inspired nixie tubes, at a fraction of their market costs (sub 25 USD/pc). I don't compromise on quality. Hence, it will be built with parts mostly sourced from the US, and