Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-17 Thread Nicholas Stock
I wonder if anyone ever tried adding a few iodine crystals to a nixie? I know it’s added to some plasma tubes to give a certain plasma color (i have onenice blue tinge to the plasma glow) Hmm Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2020, at 20:35, Toby Thain wrote: > > On 2020-07-17 10

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-17 Thread Toby Thain
On 2020-07-17 10:00 p.m., Paul Andrews wrote: > My point really is, is there a way to determine the composition of the > gases inside a Nixie tube? It would be interesting to know, as this is > something that is lacking in datasheets. Get a sufficiently precise spectrogram? --Toby > > I’ll try

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-17 Thread Paul Andrews
My point really is, is there a way to determine the composition of the gases inside a Nixie tube? It would be interesting to know, as this is something that is lacking in datasheets. I’ll try and dig up the Russian paper. > On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:37 PM, Dekatron42 wrote: > >  > Where did you

[neonixie-l] Re: Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-17 Thread Dekatron42
Where did you read about this by the way? /Martin On Friday, 17 July 2020 19:27:39 UTC+2, Paul Andrews wrote: > > I recently saw a post that suggested that the addition of a mercury dopant > to Nixie tubes does not confer the protection that we have all been led to > believe - apparently the Ru

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-17 Thread Nicholas Stock
I should have prefaced that by explaining that it was written by our very own Jens Boos, who's a member of the group! :) Nice job Jens! On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 2:34 PM Nicholas Stock wrote: > Here's the text in question... > > In a 2011 email to me, Roger Wolfe, a Burroughs engineer, recalled t

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-17 Thread Nicholas Stock
Here's the text in question... In a 2011 email to me, Roger Wolfe, a Burroughs engineer, recalled the team’s first fragile attempt: “We put the tube on life test overnight. When we came in the next day, so much cathode material had sputtered onto the dome of the tube that the numerals were no long

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie calculator display

2020-07-17 Thread David Forbes
Ghosting is usually caused by changing the cathode value too soon after turning off the anode at the end of the display time for that digit. Try waiting a millisecond with all anodes off before writing the next cathode value. On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 7:40 AM Paul Andrews wrote: > > I have had a Ca

[neonixie-l] Re: Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-17 Thread Dekatron42
There is some information in this article, presumably first hand information from a Burroughs engineer, on the extended life when mercury was added: https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-history/dawn-of-electronics/the-nixie-tube-story-the-neon-display-tech-that-engineers-cant-quit (just search for m

Re: [neonixie-l] That's one expensive clock....

2020-07-17 Thread Kevin A.
It's only worth what someone's willing to pay for it. I can only speak for myself but I do think it's exorbitantly overpriced as well. Is it really worth 4 of Dalibor's zen clocks? On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 1:47 PM Nicholas Stock wrote: > https://shop.madgallery.ch/products/nixie-time-zone-clock-v2

[neonixie-l] Re: Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-17 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 1:27:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Andrews wrote: > > This also got me thinking; if it isn’t mercury that confers a longer life, > then could it be something else? Could it be fine-tuning the cathode > material? Could it be fine tuning of the gas mixture and/or pressure? Which

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: That's one expensive clock....

2020-07-17 Thread 'Ian Vine' via neonixie-l
It is a nice piece of work, mind you. > On 17 Jul 2020, at 19:57, newxito wrote: > >  > Well, Geneva is an expensive city :-) > > Am Freitag, 17. Juli 2020 19:47:04 UTC+2 schrieb Pramanicin: >> >> https://shop.madgallery.ch/products/nixie-time-zone-clock-v2 >> >> Nice execution and I get th

[neonixie-l] Re: That's one expensive clock....

2020-07-17 Thread newxito
Well, Geneva is an expensive city :-) Am Freitag, 17. Juli 2020 19:47:04 UTC+2 schrieb Pramanicin: > > https://shop.madgallery.ch/products/nixie-time-zone-clock-v2 > > Nice execution and I get that custom aluminum is expensive (I know first > hand), but >8000 Euro? Really? > -- You received thi

RE: [neonixie-l] That's one expensive clock....

2020-07-17 Thread Jeff Walton
I could buy a PV or ebay clock for each time zone I need, and use the leftover money for a nice vacation. Jeff  Original message From: Nicholas Stock Date: 7/17/20 12:45 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Greg P' via neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] That's one expensive clock https:/

[neonixie-l] That's one expensive clock....

2020-07-17 Thread Nicholas Stock
https://shop.madgallery.ch/products/nixie-time-zone-clock-v2 Nice execution and I get that custom aluminum is expensive (I know first hand), but >8000 Euro? Really? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group an

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie calculator display

2020-07-17 Thread Paul Andrews
On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 12:44:26 PM UTC-4, Dekatron42 wrote: > Have you asked Brent Hilpert who owns the site you linked too if he has the > datasheets? He has been very helpsome when i have asked him about other > equipment with dekatrons and the E1Ts. > > > /Martin Hi Martin, Yes - I se

[neonixie-l] Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-17 Thread Paul Andrews
I recently saw a post that suggested that the addition of a mercury dopant to Nixie tubes does not confer the protection that we have all been led to believe - apparently the Russians made a study suggesting this to be the case. Regardless of whether this is true or not, I was wondering if there

[neonixie-l] Re: IN-8-2. 170v supply, direct drive. What anode resistor?

2020-07-17 Thread gregebert
The datasheet I found online says the operating voltage is 100V, and 2.5 to 4.5mA. So I would start with the midpoint, 3.5mA If your supply is 170V, and the tube is 100V, the resistor is easily calculated: R = (170-100)/(0.0035) = 20K I'm very suspicious about the 100V operating voltage; it see

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie calculator display

2020-07-17 Thread Dekatron42
Have you asked Brent Hilpert who owns the site you linked too if he has the datasheets? He has been very helpsome when i have asked him about other equipment with dekatrons and the E1Ts. /Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. T

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-8-2. 170v supply, direct drive. What anode resistor?

2020-07-17 Thread Kevin A.
I would recommend a value around 18k for 170 volts. That's what I run in my clock that has IN-8 seconds tubes. Of course, if tube life is a concern then I would also add in a motion sensor and a phototransisitor to automatically dim the tubes in low light. These two things will help any nixie live

[neonixie-l] Nixie calculator display

2020-07-17 Thread Paul Andrews
I have had a Canon X61884803 calculator display board for some time and I am in the process of trying to use this directly rather than pull the tubes from it. I figured out the basic circuit for it and put together a lash-up to drive it. Naturally it is multiplexed and LTSpice shows that 120Hz

[neonixie-l] Re: ZM1003 - Sine Minus 1 Spiral

2020-07-17 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I do not have those. Early this year I purchased 10 NOS IN-15A's and 10 NOS IN-15B's as the prices were quite cheap since there really is no demand for them. Have been trying to decide about what to do with them. Using IN-12's for the letter I and O, there are a few words that can be spelled out

[neonixie-l] IN-8-2. 170v supply, direct drive. What anode resistor?

2020-07-17 Thread celzey11
Seen a lot of discrepancies for what people recommend for an anode resistor. I want to prolong the tube life as long as possible as it's going in a full custom clock that's gonna be a gift. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To uns

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: VFD filament resistance when hot/cold?

2020-07-17 Thread Hannah Mishin
You must be careful with the filament. The filament will accept whatever current you give it. Overtime, constant voltage source on the filament is problematic. As such - for sure- drive the filament with an AC wave There is lots of corollary info on this blog regarding the filament. https://hann

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Different color VFD tubes?

2020-07-17 Thread Alex
These would be interesting to see... On Friday, 17 July 2020 09:25:10 UTC+1, Terry Kennedy wrote: > > > > I have some large Soviet VFD panels which are allegedly intended for a > submarine - parts of the display look like ballast tanks. But they could > also be separator drums from a later RBMK

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Different color VFD tubes?

2020-07-17 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 12:27:32 PM UTC-4, Bill Notfaded wrote: > > I'll post some pics when I get home if I remember... > I have some large Soviet VFD panels which are allegedly intended for a submarine - parts of the display look like ballast tanks. But they could also be separator dru

[neonixie-l] Re: VFD filament resistance when hot/cold?

2020-07-17 Thread Jasper C.
On Friday, 17 July 2020 01:56:47 UTC+8, Paul Andrews wrote: > > What power supply are you using? I seem to collect power supply design > almost as much as Nixie tubes. > > I'm planning to use an LM9022 based supply. Yes, it's out of production, but apparently it's the same as an LM4871. And

[neonixie-l] Re: Simple A108 Spinner

2020-07-17 Thread Dekatron42
Nice! I like the simplicity of the design. /Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussi