Re: [neonixie-l] Faulty Atmel Microcontrollers from Aliexpress

2016-12-18 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
Before the Microchip acquisition, Atmel wasn't exactly fabless, they had purchased a few smaller companies that came with fabs. I don't know where the AVR series is made. The problem is likely counterfeit parts, or die that didn't test 100%, and "leaked" out of fabs... This is more common than

Re: [neonixie-l] Faulty Atmel Microcontrollers from Aliexpress

2016-12-18 Thread Luka C
I agree with what you and the others have said. I should mention, the reason why I want to warn the others about this is because the listings on sites such as Aliexpress/Alibaba actually do say that the component is "original" and "new". If it was marked as refurbished or something like that, I

Re: [neonixie-l] Faulty Atmel Microcontrollers from Aliexpress

2016-12-18 Thread NeonJohn
No idea, though I can't imagine them changing their entire work flow and methods just like that. The blank silicon may come from MicroChip now. John On 12/18/2016 11:34 AM, John Rehwinkel wrote: >> Atmel is what is known as a foundryless manufacturer. That is they have >> hunks of silicon logi

Re: [neonixie-l] Faulty Atmel Microcontrollers from Aliexpress

2016-12-18 Thread John Rehwinkel
> Atmel is what is known as a foundryless manufacturer. That is they have > hunks of silicon logic manufactured by someone else. Is that still true, after their acquisition by Microchip? - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To

Re: [neonixie-l] Faulty Atmel Microcontrollers from Aliexpress

2016-12-18 Thread Nick
Likewise - as I used to be in the UK, it was Farnell (Element 14, who also own Newark), RS, Rapid or similar. Occasionally, I'd use DigiKey or Mouser, both of whom have UK delivery services at respectable rates. Out here in the UAE, it's still Farnell but I have to wait two days instead of one

Re: [neonixie-l] Faulty Atmel Microcontrollers from Aliexpress

2016-12-17 Thread David Forbes
I buy parts from Digikey for this reason. They always work. Think how much money and time you would have saved by spending more on legitimate components. On 12/17/2016 1:26 PM, Luka C wrote: I'm writing this to warn others or ask if anyone had similar experiences. I purchased a lot of Atmel AT

Re: [neonixie-l] Faulty Atmel Microcontrollers from Aliexpress

2016-12-17 Thread NeonJohn
On 12/17/2016 03:26 PM, Luka C wrote: > I'm writing this to warn others or ask if anyone had similar experiences. I > purchased a lot of Atmel ATMEGA328P microcontrollers from a seller on > Aliexpress. Microprocessors are one component that you absolutely MUST buy from an authorized distribut

[neonixie-l] Faulty Atmel Microcontrollers from Aliexpress

2016-12-17 Thread Luka C
I'm writing this to warn others or ask if anyone had similar experiences. I purchased a lot of Atmel ATMEGA328P microcontrollers from a seller on Aliexpress. The lot was listed as "new" in the description and had a picture of the microcontroller in the reel so I thought it's a legit new sealed