Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-26 Thread jb-electronics
Yeah, I posted about this a while ago, but just now discovered the Raspberry Pi's DPI module. The timing chart [ http://jb-electronics.de/tmp/timing.jpg ] does not mention inverted pulses, though. Do you have any intuition what could go wrong if you use 3.3V p-p signals instead? Could this expl

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-26 Thread jb-electronics
Here is the manual: http://jb-electronics.de/tmp/TR-60S1A-manual.pdf To add to the mystery, I should say this: I managed to get the display to work with a composite signal and a GS1881 sync separator to extract the hsync and vsync pulses. I know that the timing is a bit off, but by tweaking th

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-26 Thread Alex
I get the feeling I have a very similar crt in my collection, but I also think I mentioned this a while back on here, have you posted already about this? I think mine is either Toshiba or Panasonic and was a unit often used in T&M kit, Tektronix protocol analysers come to mind? I had mine runnin

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-25 Thread David Forbes
Jens, The CRT monitor may not be adjusted properly. The horizontal oscillator probably has a frequency control. This what we called Horizontal Hold on TV sets. Do you have any documentation such as a schematic, service manual or similar for it? On Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 9:34 PM jb-electronics wrot

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-25 Thread jb-electronics
PS: Also the video data's timing is spot on. Silly question: The Pi runs at 3.3V, the display expects TTL (5V). Could this lead to these distortions? I have not yet added a proper level shifter. On 2022-02-25 11:34 p.m., jb-electronics wrote: Hey David, I had a few minutes spare time tonight an

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-25 Thread jb-electronics
Hey David, I had a few minutes spare time tonight and I verified that both the hsync and vsync signals appear at exactly the right frequency (19.2kHz and 60Hz, respectively) and have the correct duration. Yet, the image is still garbage. How can that be, any ideas? Jens On 2022-02-21 7:59 p.

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-21 Thread David Forbes
Jens, Connect your oscilloscope to the H Drive signal and verify that it is 19.2 kHz. If your oscilloscope cannot do this job, then do yourself a favor and buy a better one. It will be worth it. I say this because I did a lot of video work in the 1980s, and a Tektronix 465 scope or its equivalent w

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-21 Thread jb-electronics
Nick, nice decoding of the numbers there. I can set the pixel clock to 110ns per pixel (9.09 MHz), but since this is a free parameter in the Raspberry Pi it should also work with the 20MHz that I originally specified, right? Best wishes Jens On 2022-02-20 10:52 p.m., Nick Sargeant wrote: Comp

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-21 Thread jb-electronics
David, Thanks for your pointers! In the Raspberry Pi's DPI configuration I set the amount of horizontal pixels to 844px, which at a pixel clock of 20MHz should result in 19.2kHz if I am not mistaken. Sorry, I forgot to mention this part. Regardless of how I think I configured it, you are of

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-20 Thread Nick Sargeant
Comparing the timings in the picture and going for common denominators, you can see that the front porch and back porch are (4 units of 660 ns) long, hsync is (7 units of 660ns) long, video itself is (64 units of 660ns) long. So I would offer that there is a 64 character display, where each cha

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: CRT timing question

2022-02-20 Thread David Forbes
Jens, The horizontal line timing is incorrect. This is why the image is diagonal. The numbers that you provided do not specify the horizontal line total time or frequency. The monitor requires 52 microseconds or 19.2 kHz. You need to find a way to specify this, perhaps it is the character count or