[neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-22 Thread will
That doesn't change the pitch to .1, unfortunately. All of the true DIP adapters seem to cost around $20 or more. On Feb 22, 10:21 am, Adam Jacobs a...@jacobs.us wrote: 62 cents? http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/3M-Electronic-Solutions-Division/... On 2/21/2011 10:13 PM, will wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-22 Thread Adam Jacobs
Trust me, I've used these sockets. It is a through-hole component suitable for vectorboard. I don't know how it will work on breadboard, but vectorboard (.1) is fine. -Adam On 2/22/2011 8:31 AM, will wrote: That doesn't change the pitch to .1, unfortunately. All of the true DIP adapters seem

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-22 Thread Adam Jacobs
Oops (red face of shame)... I accidentally linked the .05 pitch version, you're right. Here is the .1 version (63cents): http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ADAM-TECH/PLCC-28-AT-SMT/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tvt1%2fmEPT%2fXom%252bJvDjmkkq8%3d On 2/22/2011 8:44 AM, Adam Jacobs wrote: Trust

[neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-22 Thread will
Ahh, I see. Very nice. How long did it take you to receive your supertex sample units? On Feb 22, 10:44 am, Adam Jacobs a...@jacobs.us wrote: Trust me, I've used these sockets. It is a through-hole component suitable for vectorboard. I don't know how it will work on breadboard, but

[neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-22 Thread threeneurons
Trust me, I've used these sockets. It is a through-hole component suitable for vectorboard. Here's a technical drawing of one: http://portal.fciconnect.com/Comergent//fci/drawing/54020.pdf Plug your PLCC in the top of the socket, and insert the socket in the a 0.1 pitch grid of holes. I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-22 Thread Adam Jacobs
To be honest, I have no idea how long they took to arrive.. I sampled those more than a year ago. However, most samples seem to arrive in the 1-2 weeks timeframe.. As I mentioned earlier, if the IC you're wanting to use is not available in PLCC or DIP, you can still pick up one of the nifty

[neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-22 Thread will
I hear that... Even if I could drum up the spare cash to drop on all the chemicals, board, equipment, etc. that I would need to start printing PCBs, I would probably lack the time and the attention span to get it done (at least without sacrificing something else I'm already doing). I wish I had a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-21 Thread jb-electronics
Adam, just checked the HV5812 datasheet and it says maximum current is 1mA. Is that really enough? I mean, most Nixie tubes suck at least 1.5 to 2mA.. Jens -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to

[neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-21 Thread will
Since (the way I understand it) the only way appreciable current will flow is if the HV5812 pin is pulled low, the important specification is Isink, which is rated at 3.5mA. Remember that we are using the HV5812 to pull the cathodes to ground to turn on a number. On Feb 21, 2:45 pm,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-21 Thread jb-electronics
Hi, that makes sense, but I guess you would still run into trouble when trying to drive ZM1040 at 4.5mA.. I guess the HV9708 is a better choice in that case. Jens Am 21.02.2011 22:07, schrieb will: Since (the way I understand it) the only way appreciable current will flow is if the HV5812

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-21 Thread Adam Jacobs
It looks to me like the HV5812 is really designed to be a HV source driver (Like for VFD's?), whereas the HV5522 is a sink driver. (Disclaimer: I know nothing about these chips apart from what I've gleaned of the datasheets in a handful of minutes.) :D Sure, Jens. I'll email you directly with the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-21 Thread Adam Jacobs
The HV5522 is available in PLCC package, you can buy DIP sockets for PLCC. I think that the HV518 is another source driver (designed for driving VFD's). As I've mentioned before, I know nothing about these chips.. I'm very excited to hear the results from all of this experimentation. I'm

[neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-18 Thread Jens Boos
Hi again, thank you all for your ideas. I think I might go for the HV5812 (20 channels) or HV9708 (32 channels) from Supertex, they are both very neat chips indeed, although quite pricy. (I prefer these chips over mere driver chips since they have a shift register built in.) It is not so easy to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-18 Thread Adam Jacobs
Humorously enough, it is the difficulty in purchasing some chips from mouser/digikey that usually leads me to ordering samples. Mouser has started stocking _most_ of Maxim-IC's stuff, but before they did, my only source was to sample them. Same deal with supertex, I couldn't find anywhere to order

[neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-14 Thread M.J.Sangster
I have used the the Supertex HV5812 with IN-16's and IN-14's. It is a 5 volt supply chip that is available in a 28 pin DIP package. It has 20 outputs, so it can drive 2 tubes in direct mode, or 6 tube (2 X 3) multiplexed. Also, it uses a lot less power than the nixie TTL driver IC's. It works

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-14 Thread Adam Jacobs
I'd just like to add that Supertex is another company that is very freehanded with the samples. :) Doesn't cost anything to try out their parts and see what you think. -Adam On 2/14/2011 7:45 AM, will wrote: I'm interested in this as well. Discrete transistors are a pain to solder. On Feb

[neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-14 Thread will
Interesting... That's why Atmel is my favorite. On Feb 14, 10:27 am, Adam Jacobs a...@jacobs.us wrote: I'd just like to add that Supertex is another company that is very freehanded with the samples. :) Doesn't cost anything to try out their parts and see what you think. -Adam On 2/14/2011

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-14 Thread Adam Jacobs
Thanks for the design idea, Michael. I actually have a tube of these in the drawer that I sampled at one point and have never even looked into seriously using. The fact that they are SPI is really exciting, since my preferred uC is the ATTiny2313. Even a direct-drive clock would be possible on

[neonixie-l] Re: Modern Nixie tube drivers

2011-02-14 Thread will
Just an FYI, Supertex will have an engineer contact you about the samples. However, since I have a legitimate potential production usage, I was able to get some. On Feb 14, 10:27 am, Adam Jacobs a...@jacobs.us wrote: I'd just like to add that Supertex is another company that is very freehanded