Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-07 Thread 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l
On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 2:06:42 PM UTC-8, Jeff Walton wrote: > > I have a clock that uses Raytheon CK8754 tubes that has 35 years > continuous use with no tube issues. That's over 300,000 hours. I hope > that the B7971's last as long. I'll probably be gone by then.. > > *Jeff * > I

Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-06 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Must be the same guy that I bought from. Each tube was wrapped up in a single thin layer of newsprint, and then laid in the box side to side against each other. And yes one did arrive broken, and he wouldn't do anything about it.Ira. On 3/6/2016 2:08 PM, Nick wrote: Odd this. I bought

Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-06 Thread Jeff Walton
lt;neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> Date: 3/6/2016 5:03 PM (GMT-06:00) To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's Jeff,   Sorry, I have not taken notes as to which the tubes were, although I have both types.  I did look at some to see that the ones WITH the needle still have

Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-06 Thread Michail1 via neonixie-l
them. Much depends on the font that is being used. Jeff From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 12:04 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's Thought I would share, althought I might have

RE: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-06 Thread Nick
Odd this. I bought substantial batches of these (in the several 100s) from the guy that originally owned pretty much the world's supply many years ago - apart from those that broke in transit due to very poor packing, I've never had a failure. Where are all these different tubes coming

RE: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-06 Thread Jeff Walton
that is being used. Jeff From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 12:04 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's Thought I would share, althought I might have already. Last purchase on ebay

Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-06 Thread Instrument Resources of America
I've used this same 'smacking technique' to straighten up bent elements inside of such tubes, as Western Electric 'tennis ball' style of tubes where the glass support arbor is broken inside the tube. Have not broken one yet!!! Ira. On 3/6/2016 9:28 AM, Michail1 via neonixie-l wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-06 Thread Michail1 via neonixie-l
Thought I would share, althought I might have already. Last purchase on ebay was a sign which was made up of 7 tubes and says 'GO AWAY' or 'WELCOME' depending on the position of the switch. 6 more tubes were to come with it. Well, I took video of opening the 2 boxes just because of

Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-06 Thread Nicholas Stock
I took a look at the cathodes under a good magnifier and a few of them you can definitely see are physically overlapping in the center of the segments and no deal of smacking the tube can get them to move...;-( I'll PM you later today. I will measure the resistance of the less obvious ones too,

Re: [neonixie-l] Bad B7971's

2016-03-06 Thread gregebert
Measure the resistance between cathode pins to determine how 'shorted' they really are. It may be possible to zap the shorts. I've done this with IN-1's before. I'm more concerned about *how* they got shorted, because Burroughs tubes are legendary for their high quality. Are the dead segments