[NetBehaviour] new strange art game

2009-10-06 Thread Jason Nelson
just wanted to share my new art gamecomments are more than appreciated... Title: Evidence of Everything Exploding URL: http://www.secrettechnology.com/explode/evidence.html Brief Describe: A new art/poetry game from the creator of "game, game, game and again game" and "I made this. You play

[NetBehaviour] EVAM {x,y{z}}

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
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Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
Damn right -Original Message- From: netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org [mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org] On Behalf Of marc garrett Sent: 06 October 2009 11:00 PM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd) I agree with what

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
Just want to point out that space always costs, someone, somewhere; even OpenSim's got to run on something someone's paying for. Odyssey ironically has been fairly low-cost and free for exhibitions because it's supported by someone who heads a telcom in Britain. - Alan On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, ma

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
Hi marc, for me part of my culture is Second Life. I don't know why you think your description below is at variance from my own; we all want a better world to live in of course. Nor do I see where "genius" fits into this at all. In SL there's community and it's fairly grounded and smart and a

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
I agree with what Corrado says as well, I must turning into a liberal - shoot me now! marc > The challenge is definitely there. By the way, I'm now up to a total of 21 > USD for the years I've been on SL (it might be only 14 - I lost track a > while ago). It can be incredibly cheap. > > The wei

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Hi ALan, mmm, I'm not asking for A mono-cultural and isolated thing here, more of a conscious effort by people to support each other, artists or whatever those communities may be. I feel that sharing and supporting others is an honourable thing to do - not for any religious reasons or official

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
The challenge is definitely there. By the way, I'm now up to a total of 21 USD for the years I've been on SL (it might be only 14 - I lost track a while ago). It can be incredibly cheap. The weird thing is - if I were on OpenSim or some such exclusively - I'd be doing the same sort of work, un

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
Just wanted to jump in here. I find SL actually more populist, far far more grass roots than opensim, etc. It's like linux - I love linux, but grass roots is Windows, which does things for you; linux is for people who want to operate the OS in depth. My work's no more for geeks than any other

[NetBehaviour] new art/poetry game

2009-10-06 Thread info
Posted by Jason Nelson URL: http://www.secrettechnology.com/explode/evidence.html A new art/poetry game from the creator of "game, game, game and again game" and "I made this. You play this. We are enemies." Using documents, both historical and little-known from B. Gates, NASA, James Joyce, Dada

Re: [NetBehaviour] New York man accused of using Twitter to direct protesters during G20 summit.

2009-10-06 Thread Pall Thayer
An interview with one of the guys who was arrested: http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/6/twitter_crackdown_nyc_activist_arrested_for mark cooley wrote: > It is not illegal to have a police scanner in the U.S. The notion that > it is illegal to pass information on to others obtained by such mean

[NetBehaviour] The Yes Men Fix the World's a Riot. No, Really.

2009-10-06 Thread info
* /The Yes Men Fix the World/'s a Riot. No, Really. * We all know the facts. Free-market capitalism is dangerous. It's run by a whole lot of bad, powerful people, and it hurts a whole lot of people who don't deserve to be hurt. So much for the obvious. Now what? Our movie, /The Yes Men Fix th

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Thanks, Rob, James & Corrado... I will try these suggestions out :-) marc > On 06/10/09 19:18, marc garrett wrote: > >> I have a few itunes files that I wish to convert for my linux. You may >> not be able resolve what the whole of the Internet/Linux user groups >> have not been successful i

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/10/09 19:18, marc garrett wrote: > > I have a few itunes files that I wish to convert for my linux. You may > not be able resolve what the whole of the Internet/Linux user groups > have not been successful in doing, but you never know - I want to > convert itunes files into a music prog,

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
Apart from itunes drm (does it still exist?) try re-recording them in realtime. This suxx but it's better than owt C -Original Message- From: netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org [mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org] On Behalf Of james morris Sent: 06 October 2009 7:33 PM To: n

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread james morris
I know nothing about itunes, but a quick search... maybe this: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=How_to_import_files_from_iTunes#Importing_protected_M4P_files_from_iTunes_Store ?? On 6/10/2009, "marc garrett" wrote: >Hi James & other linux users for music... > >I have a few itune

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
I'm with you Marc, But.everything is up for grabs. If an artist is to make 'artefact' within non multiplayer spaces (potentially small multiplayer; quake) then using an engine to produce is no difference from using , dunno Blender to produce. SL is challenged by Alan's activity. Open MMO's are

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Hi James & other linux users for music... I have a few itunes files that I wish to convert for my linux. You may not be able resolve what the whole of the Internet/Linux user groups have not been successful in doing, but you never know - I want to convert itunes files into a music prog, and mix

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Hi Corrado, Alan & others, There is nothing that I actually disagree with here, but I cannot help feeling uncomfortable with the creative industries and corporate companies, hijacking or diverting media artists and related practices from working with more 'grass roots' platforms, even if they a

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread james morris
it also missed wav composer not toilet ;-) other audio programming environments: csound chuck all as bloody-awkward to learn as puredata. i'll stick to wav composer not toilet as i only found it was only bloody-awkward to develop. On 6/10/2009, "Pall Thayer" wrote: >It may very well be a

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
Indeedy... But, to lose, as Alan has mentioned the 'walk in crowd', which is a significant part of the engagement with the environment would be troublesome. There is a massive difference between an engine re-purposed to produce art-artefact (quake etc..) and using a virtual environment with all of

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Hi Corrado, >Alan asked for space within sl, not an alternative. But it costs... marc > Second life, as much as i have issues with it has many productive > affordances. It's a bit like doing a project on north london, but suggesting > one does it in swansea. I think alan's issues are not with

Re: [NetBehaviour] BlueMail v26 | A new JiaoCha Exhibition

2009-10-06 Thread manik
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Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
There's OpenSim, which is based on it, but OpenSim doesn't have the walk-in audience and seemed also buggy to me. SL works really well, when it works; I've used it for years. I don't know what's happening to be honest - I heard from Helfe, and he doesn't either. I'd still prefer SL because it

Re: [NetBehaviour] New York man accused of using Twitter to direct protesters during G20 summit.

2009-10-06 Thread mark cooley
It is not illegal to have a police scanner in the U.S. The notion that it is illegal to pass information on to others obtained by such means is absurd. Anyone can have a scanner and listen to it for themselves, how would telling someone else what they hear violate any law. This would be unconsti

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread Pall Thayer
It may very well be a programming language but it's also a "music-making app". The way things are evolving with Pd, there is an increasing number of people who are using it to run pre-created patches as musical instruments instead of using it to create their own. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Ia

[NetBehaviour] TOPLAP UK infoburst #1

2009-10-06 Thread Katalina Lubeck
TOPLAP UK INFOBURST Live coding is a new direction in electronic music and video, and is starting to get somewhere interesting. Live coders expose and rewire the innards of software while it generates improvised music and/or visuals. All code manipulation is projected for your pleasure. http

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
The alternative would be to treat it as an engine. Quake which is open source would approximate the same outcomes that alan produces. But it would of course be an approximation...and not alans ventures, derives and detournes in sl. World of warcraft anyone? ;-) c -Original Message- Fro

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
Second life, as much as i have issues with it has many productive affordances. It's a bit like doing a project on north london, but suggesting one does it in swansea. I think alan's issues are not with sl as such, as he has established a practice based around its unique qualities. Moving the act

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread Ian Smith-Heisters
Pure Data is arguably a programming language. Were the author to include it, she/he should also include SuperCollider, Chuck, CML, etc. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Pall Thayer wrote: > I was also a bit surprised by the blaring omission of Pure Data. > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Ian Smi

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread Pall Thayer
I was also a bit surprised by the blaring omission of Pure Data. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Ian Smith-Heisters wrote: > The article misses my favorite: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/ > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Pall Thayer wrote: >> Rosegarden is nice. I've been toying with

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread Ian Smith-Heisters
The article misses my favorite: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/ On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Pall Thayer wrote: > Rosegarden is nice. I've been toying with it for quite a while now. > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM, marc garrett > wrote: >> Thanks James, >> >> I've been using some

[NetBehaviour] Code Development ARTifacts

2009-10-06 Thread james morris
Hi, My last post about the "broken engine in a tui" (text user interface) was poor. The attached file named simply as p, was a text file containing the output of debugging in gdb, a program which i am working on at the moment. The 'engine' is my attempt to write a 'Xor' engine which is based upon

Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread Pall Thayer
Rosegarden is nice. I've been toying with it for quite a while now. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM, marc garrett wrote: > Thanks James, > > I've been using some of these already but not Rosegarden, looks worth > trying out :-) > > marc >> http://blog.audiojungle.net/resources/29-music-making-app

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Hi Rob, Even though OpenSim is based on Mono, perhaps even this is better than supporting such a grand, corporate orientated platform such as Second Life, one could even build independent states on there. Although, it would be interesting to view their policy around use of personal data and pr

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Rob Myers
There's OpenSim, which is unfortunately based on Mono and C#, and a bit fiddly for normal SL users to connect to. http://opensimulator.org/ You can export stuff to it though IIRC, and it's getting more serious usage now. - Rob. 2009/10/6 marc garrett : > Hi Alan, > > Is there an alternative to

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Hi Alan, Is there an alternative to Second Life out there, open source or free? marc > > If anyone has a copy of Premiere that can do HD, please let me know. > If anyone has extra land on Second Life they would rent me cheaply, please > let > me know. > My life is getting truly fucked up. > > T

[NetBehaviour] Critical Gestures - Sadie Plant.

2009-10-06 Thread info
Critical Gestures - Sadie Plant. Sadie Plant introduces work by Gustav Metzger, Ultra-red and Heath Bunting. Reviewing Art and its social context. http://www.tate.org.uk/intermediaart/critical_gestures.shtm ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@ne

[NetBehaviour] CologneOFF - Cologne Online Film Festival

2009-10-06 Thread info
CologneOFF - Cologne Online Film Festival is happy to announce 1st Videoart Festival in Maracaibo/Venezuela In cooperation with the local organisation CARPE DIEM, CologneOFF realises the Videoart Festival at three locations 7 October 2009 - Centro de Arte de Maracaibo "Lía Bermúdez" 8 October 200

[NetBehaviour] BlueMail v26 | A new JiaoCha Exhibition

2009-10-06 Thread info
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Re: [NetBehaviour] 29 Music-making Apps for Linux

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Thanks James, I've been using some of these already but not Rosegarden, looks worth trying out :-) marc > http://blog.audiojungle.net/resources/29-music-making-apps-for-linux/ > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://w

[NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
If anyone has a copy of Premiere that can do HD, please let me know. If anyone has extra land on Second Life they would rent me cheaply, please let me know. My life is getting truly fucked up. Thank you. Alan == current text file: http://www.alansondheim.org/qh.txt last text file: http://www

[NetBehaviour] This is Not a Gateway Festival 2009

2009-10-06 Thread Olga
The annual TINAG festival takes place over the course of 3 days (23, 24, 25 October 2009). This year the festival will be held on Hanbury Street, Spitalfields East London. Kobi Nazrul Centre and Hanbury Hall are the main venues. The festival programme and participant information is available here:

[NetBehaviour] Ennui Performance

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
Ennui Performance Foofwa d'Imobilite (dance), Azure Carter (voice), Alan Sondheim (saz), performing Ennui at the Umove dancefilm festival last night - check it out; .wmv files open in windows http://www.alansondheim.org/umove.wmv ___ NetBehaviour