Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread Peter O'Doherty
On 12/11/2010 04:06 PM, Simon Biggs wrote: Hi Marc Who has warned you and about whom (in power)? Off-list if you like. I wonder who in power would be watching us? What do you mean by the powerful? Do you mean institutional curators, funding agency officers, etc? They have no meaningful

Re: [NetBehaviour] Digital Anarchy and Wikileaks. Or , Skynet doesn¹t look anything like we thought it did.

2010-12-12 Thread dave miller
My pathetic response so far has been to close my account with Amazon. I know it's nothing really, but I've had it over 10 years, so I assume I'm a valued customer. I told them why I'm closing it. I hope that by withdrawing myself - and never being a customer again - from those companies who have

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread Simon Biggs
I fear he believes it. Best Simon On 12/12/2010 08:58, Peter O'Doherty m...@peterodoherty.net wrote: The police are not against anybody. Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk si...@littlepig.org.uk Skype: simonbiggsuk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ Research Professor edinburgh college of art

[NetBehaviour] Justice Department Prepares for Ominous Expansion of Anti-Terrorism Law Targeting Activists.

2010-12-12 Thread marc garrett
Justice Department Prepares for Ominous Expansion of Anti-Terrorism Law Targeting Activists. Finding a whole new exception to the First Amendment, the Court decided that any support, even if it involves nonviolent efforts towards peace, is illegal under the law since it frees up other

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread De wraak van Baltassar Geraards
@allan Same things go for Europe and maybe even more so for the UK After WW2 and after receiving economic 'aid' the Marshall program, Europe was restyled in a neolib replica of american signature Resulting in the loss of its own specific mores i.e. on social experimental based economies

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread marc garrett
Hi Simon all, Just getting back to the ealier part of the discussion here, relating to the Anonymous hacktivist movement who have been fighting for wikileaks. Found this info on Slashdot.org this morning which is pretty interesting... For a number of days the websites of MasterCard, Visa,

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread Simon Biggs
Yes, that's why I suggested not using your own IP, at least not without masking (Tor). It will be traceable. However, it is open to question whether a court could secure a conviction on the evidence of IP traces alone. Personally, I wouldn't want to test the law. Best Simon On 12/12/2010

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread marc garrett
Hi Simon, Testing the law is definitely not a thing any individual would relish right now... marc Yes, that's why I suggested not using your own IP, at least not without masking (Tor). It will be traceable. However, it is open to question whether a court could secure a conviction on the

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread Alan Sondheim
It's not my business in a way, but I wonder if your discussion here shouldn't be off-list, especially with archiving etc. - Alan On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Simon Biggs wrote: Yes, that's why I suggested not using your own IP, at least not without masking (Tor). It will be traceable. However, it

[NetBehaviour] Kind of my History in Odyssey, Second Life

2010-12-12 Thread Alan Sondheim
Kind of my History in Odyssey, Second Life in Rough Inaccurate Chronological Order i returned alone to odyssey and reworked some of the spheres, too more, more in odyssey and upside-down with the sunset face the odyssey violent odyssey where his strength and char acter are tested cover, and

[NetBehaviour] 30 sec Visitorsstudio video (promotion)

2010-12-12 Thread marc garrett
A 30 second promotional video for Furtherfield's multi-user, real-time artists collaborating platform Visitorsstudio - www.visitorsstudio.org wishing all well. marc ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org

Re: [NetBehaviour] Digital Anarchy and Wikileaks. Or , Skynet doesn’t look anything like we thought it did.

2010-12-12 Thread Alan Sondheim
Interesting post, and a few comments. First, I'm surprised at how little difference the _leaks_ are making; it's ironically the flesh of Assange and the flesh of his flesh that seems to be of (distributed) core value - the attarcks on Amazon, Mastercard, etc. It's like the breathing of an

[NetBehaviour] Istanbul

2010-12-12 Thread marc garrett
Istanbul A transitory sound journey composed by Roger Mills, with Visuals by Neil Jenkins. Originally performed live as part of the Placard Headphone Festival in Regensburg, Germany in August 2007. http://www.eartrumpet.org/istanbul/ Using Visitorsstudio www.visitorsstudio.org

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread Ruth Catlow
Beautifully put! Thanks Andreas Maria Jacobs : ) R -Original Message- From: De wraak van Baltassar Geraards aj...@xs4all.nl Reply-to: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread Rob Myers
On 11/12/10 18:27, Ana Valdés wrote: dispair, they all voted for Obama not because they were democrats but because they wanted a real change. And now they discovered the system is http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.

2010-12-12 Thread James Morris
quoting from dirty tricks and nimbys... http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/936610 --- Wikileaks may not be the most ideal environment to free information and the response from all sides in this information war may not be the most logical, but that's just human nature - it's written all over

[NetBehaviour] 26 images involving texts, part of an ongoing series

2010-12-12 Thread Michael Szpakowski
  26 images involving texts, part of an ongoing series:   http://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/sets/72157625473925530/   cheers michael___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

[NetBehaviour] What Progressives Don't Understand About Obama

2010-12-12 Thread Rob Myers
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/opinion/12reed.html What the progressives forget is that black intellectuals have been called “paranoid,” “bitter,” “rowdy,” “angry,” “bullies,” and accused of tirades and diatribes for more than 100 years. Very few of them would have been given a grade above

Re: [NetBehaviour] Digital Anarchy and Wikileaks. Or , Skynet doesn¹t look anything like we thought it did.

2010-12-12 Thread dave miller
Have just received an email from Amazon asking to confirm if I want to close my account. At the bottom of their email is the strapline: Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. It reminds me of Pret A Manger's hypocrisy We shun the obscure chemicals, additives and

Re: [NetBehaviour] Digital Anarchy and Wikileaks. Or , Skynet doesn¹t look anything like we thought it did.

2010-12-12 Thread dave miller
hi marc I did - I said I dont support their actions over Wikileaks. By kicking Wikileaks off it's servers, it's not behaving in neutral way - it's responding to US political pressure and is denying free speech on the Internet. I know my tiny action wont make them change their mind, but if enough

Re: [NetBehaviour] What Progressives Don't Understand About Obama

2010-12-12 Thread Ana Valdés
I don't understand. Should we rule or judge the actions of people based on their skin or their social belonging or the church they attend or the religion or god they worship? Obama is a Black intellectual, but raised in one of the most prestigious universities in the US, backed as much for the big

Re: [NetBehaviour] 26 images involving texts, part of an ongoing series

2010-12-12 Thread Martha Deed
Michael-- Thanks for posting these. I especially liked the ad for escorts. I like the grittiness and also the variety. I see that there is a strand that unites them, but I cannot name it -- yet. Martha The Lost Shoe

Re: [NetBehaviour] 26 images involving texts, part of an ongoing series

2010-12-12 Thread Michael Szpakowski
Thanks Martha James! yes -some of them made me laugh (sometimes a lot) , some made me melancholy, some seemed to possess a kind of found poetry  some made me rage... The whole stills thing remains something of an adventure  for me :) warmest wishes michael --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Martha Deed

[NetBehaviour] Digital Anarchy and Wikileaks. Or, Skynet doesn’t look anything like we thought it did.

2010-12-12 Thread Edward Picot
Patrick - Right on, and beautifully written/reasoned. I just hope it really does work out that the infosphere is stronger than the nation state, and that if one Wikileaks site is closed down another one will spring up in its place. It feels more precariously balanced to me. - Edward

[NetBehaviour] 26 images involving texts, part of an ongoing series

2010-12-12 Thread Edward Picot
Michael - These are good! Really funny in places - I particularly like the Ascension Church sign drooping downwards, and the Yorkshier Pudding and Corned Beef Ash sign. But they also give an authentically gritty underview of society, particularly the glimpses of people trying to make a bit of

[NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CCLII

2010-12-12 Thread manik
...WIKILEAKS IS SYMPTOM...MANIK...DECEMBER...2010...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] What Progressives Don't Understand About Obama

2010-12-12 Thread Joel Weishaus
I think Obama's anger is actually, unconsciously, directly at himself, as he can't face how he's compromising his ideals, and failing the people who got him elected, all in the name of pragmatisim, the kind of pragmatism that used to be called appeasement. It brings back Chamberlain returning

[NetBehaviour] fractal plastic

2010-12-12 Thread James Morris
3d plastic fractal images plastic purged from injection molding machine rescued from plastics factory should have been a plastic bucket http://jwm-art.net/image/3d_plastic_fractal_01.jpg http://jwm-art.net/image/3d_plastic_fractal_02.jpg http://jwm-art.net/image/3d_plastic_fractal_03.jpg

Re: [NetBehaviour] fractal plastic

2010-12-12 Thread Michael Szpakowski
those would sit rather splendidly in a gallery - I particularly like the balanced ones... michael --- On Sun, 12/12/10, James Morris jwm.art@gmail.com wrote: From: James Morris jwm.art@gmail.com Subject: [NetBehaviour] fractal plastic To: Netbehaviour.org netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org

[NetBehaviour] [La Resocialista Internacional] Looking for translators

2010-12-12 Thread ajaco c/o bid
Hi list I am looking for translators english to spanish english to portugese english to hindi english to russian english to chinese Should be willing to translate the following poem: -- Judith's Dream 2004

Re: [NetBehaviour] [La Resocialista Internacional] Looking for translators

2010-12-12 Thread Ana Valdés
I am willing to translate to Spanish. Ana On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:58 PM, ajaco c/o bid aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi list I am looking for translators english to spanish english to portugese english to hindi english to russian english to chinese Should be willing to translate the

Re: [NetBehaviour] [La Resocialista Internacional] Looking for translators

2010-12-12 Thread ajaco c/o bid
Hi Isabel Lovely you are wonderful!!! Please take your time and send it offline to me Thanks very very muchos! Andreas Hello, I can translate it to portuguese. Isabel On 12 December 2010 21:58, ajaco c/o bid aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi list I am looking for translators english

Re: [NetBehaviour] Istanbul

2010-12-12 Thread max d. well
big thank you mark for digging that special placard headphone festival up!!! made my evening diving into old ventures and fit perfectly for what i am on these days ;-) Plac.Art.X - a lovely memory for massively commited innovative networked

Re: [NetBehaviour] Istanbul

2010-12-12 Thread max d. well
okay great, links to add coming in now ;-) http://placart.blogspot.com/ http://xxxtenxion.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00updated-max=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00max-results=4 ye-eah, its all there in the vastness 2010/12/12 max d. well

Re: [NetBehaviour] from Alan

2010-12-12 Thread Roboslob
sweet :-[ :'( :-D would appreciate some comments here http://www.it-all.com/index.php?seed=382 i'm trying to work through some things ;) --- ?e I-deal

[NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CCLIII

2010-12-12 Thread manik
...NOW IS TIME TO SHOW YOUR SELF VIA NET/THAT'S MAIN REASON WHY NET EXIST/...WIKILEAKS IS JUST TRIGGER...YOU ARE MIGHTY POWER...MAJORITY STILL LIVE IN WRONG BELIEVE THAT WORLD MUST BE THE SAME AS ALWAYS-THERE'S NO ALWAYS...MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER...NOW..MINORITY RULE OVER US LIKE

[NetBehaviour] crash music

2010-12-12 Thread Alan Sondheim
crash music after the BIOS failed on the ubuntu laptop and proved unworkable, even after reloading meerkat, and after attempting a recovery usb or disk, there went gnome, nothing was reachable, the display configuration gone, BIOS still acting up, and after a day or so of this, produced the