hello,
is there a high resolution version of the image (at link below) available?
http://netbsd.org/images/NetBSD-old.jpg
thanks.
-mayuresh
> From k...@munnari.oz.au Wed Mar 30 02:55:37 2022
> From: Robert Elz
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: is /bin/sh the almquist shell?
> Content-ID: <4606.164860862...@jinx.noi.kre.to>
>
> Date:Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:34:08 G
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-mayuresh=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Mar 29
> 15:44:08 2022
> From: Robert Elz
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: is /bin/sh the almquist shell?
> Content-ID: <23186.164856859...@jinx.noi.kre.to>
>
>
could i get confirmation that the /bin/sh under netbsd is
indeed the "almquist shell"?
thank you.
> From mar...@duskware.de Tue Mar 29 12:56:41 2022
> From: Martin Husemann
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: pkgsrc : dependencies : determination : how?
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 12:45:35PM +, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > the point
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-mayuresh=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Mar 29
> 09:30:49 2022
> From: Martin Husemann
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: pkgsrc : dependencies : determination : how?
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 09:15:34AM +00
i would like to understand how pkgsrc determines the
dependencies for a given package, and how does it go
about handling them during installs, uninstalls, etc.
i've heard about some such systems using "sat solvers".
is there a similar sub-system being used by pkgsrc?
thank you.
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> Then you might find this more helpful
> https://www.edx.=
> org/course/introduction-computer-science-harvardx-cs50x
>
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 9:01 am Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > thank
would the ifunc capability be useful under netbsd?
https://jasoncc.github.io/gnu_gcc_glibc/gnu-ifunc.html
gnu/linux obviously has it, and freebsd have their own
implementation.
there's a similar but way more advanced technology
provided under solaris/illumos called sunw_cap.
do consider.
d enough?
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> My suggestion https://stevens.netmeister.org/631/netbsd.html
>
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:20 am Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > i intend to follow t
i intend to follow the self-training regimen mentioned below;
c primer plus (prata)
c programming: a modern approach (king)
c unleashed (heathfield, kirby)
pointers on c (reek)
foundations of computer science: c edition (aho, ullman)
algorithms in c: parts 1 - 5 (sedgewick)
computer systems: a prog
would the book "modern operating systems" by tanenbaum and bos,
be good enough to prepare one to start study of the internals?
if i remember correctly, c99 is not allowed
within the userland that is closest to the
kernel, i.e. those tools and utilities which
are required just after the kernel boots up.
given that, is c99 permitted within the
kernel?
quite some time back, there was a discussion where-in
a netbsd old-timer had mentioned that he had a draft
for an introduction to netbsd and it's administration
which he'd planned to release as a book.
i don't remember that person's name, but do remember
him to be the same person who had developed
i have been a programmer since 1991, but have
always written applications, mostly with c++.
i don't have any formal training in the field
of computer science, though i do have a
professional diploma in network centered
computing; something which would be called a
community college education is the
while i possess decent technical skills, i lack knowledge of
ansi-c which i believe would be a must to read the source of
the netbsd kernel and most of the userland.
my question is; what topics should i acquire command over to
understand the netbsd kernel source with the intent of
documenting it? i
would netbsd be categorized as a project that is primarily meant for people
who are experienced at the unix way?
i haven't experienced any hostility out here (unlike at openbsd), but the
typical default install does feel scary.
i read somewhere that the netbsd project now mandates that all new code be c99.
i believe that mandate stands true for updates to old code too.
may i know the rationale for insisting of c99 when c89 was just fine for so
many years? also if the change was inevitable, then why not a newer standard
l
there used to be a filesystem called the log-structured filesystem
which was a great idea but poorly implemented in 'bsd'.
i have heard that freebsd and openbsd have opted to remove it, but
netbsd kept it active and even continued development on it from
4.x onwards.
is it true? what is that filesys
i stumbled upon "computer systems: a programmer's perspective"
(url: csapp.cs.cmu.edu) and it looks like a really interesting
book for a newbie to systems programming under unix.
is it really good to warrant a purchase (expensive), or would
the book by "maurice bach" be considered good enough, thou
i am currently using a tp-link wifi dongle (thumbnail variety).
not only does the dongle heat-up big time, but it also overworks
my wifi access point to the point of failure. i have tested it
multiple times, with the same results.
would you know of a different wifi dongle which won't cause the
prob
in spite of having a "hardware abstraction layer", how come netbsd is
so much more higher performant than other bsd systems?
the whole system while using at the console feels so zippy and so
responsive that it's a joy to use, especially to someone like me who
is coming over from openbsd and has pla
> From mar...@duskware.de Fri May 17 07:52:13 2019
> From: Martin Husemann
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: porting mosix to netbsd
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 07:23:40AM +, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > i need to have an end-goal to
due to a lack of background in formal computer science, i was under the
impression that graph algorithms are only useful in networking related
applications/areas. just noticed that even scheduling requires some level
of graph algorithm knowledge. am i right in my reading/observation? if not
which a
my last mail to the list was probably incorrectly worded, i am restating it now.
would writing code which works about the "hardware abstraction layer" of netbsd
require one to have a good grasp of assembler?
i need to have an end-goal to focus on my studies, i have chosen one such by
wanting to hav
if i wish to write code at the kernel level, but above the 'hal'
would it be necessary for me to have a good command over low
level assembler? or just a superficial introduction to assembler
be good enough?
thanks.
why do i get 2 emails every time there's a reply to any email by me or
to me? earlier i thought it was my mail client (mailx) which was doing
something crazy, but it isn't so, a simply reply to netbsd-users goes
out and sends me 2 copies of that same mail. like clock-work.
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-mayuresh=sdf@netbsd.org Mon Apr 22
> 04:55:39 2019
> From: Robert Elz
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: netbsd : internals : bach book : good to start-off?
>
> Date:Mon, 22 Apr 2019
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-mayuresh=sdf@netbsd.org Mon Apr 22
> 04:31:24 2019
> From: Robert Elz
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: netbsd : internals : bach book : good to start-off?
>
> Date:Mon, 22 Apr 2019
thanks for that jay, looking at the netbsd using lynx prevents one from
going to a lot of places on the website.
> From jaypatel@gmail.com Mon Apr 22 04:19:08 2019
> From: Jay Patel
> Subject: Re: is netbsd actually a toolkit?
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> Cc: "netbsd
freebsd has an internal focus to become a good server operating system.
openbsd has an internal focus to become a highly secure operating system.
what is netbsd's internal focus? can't be just a highly portable operating
system! is it more to be a really good toolkit for people to build their
own o
would "the design of the unix operating system" by maurice bach
be good as a starting off point to understand netbsd internals?
of-course, there's no substitute to reading and re-reading the
source, but just something to act as a spring-board!
heard about freebsd guys using the concurrency kit (concurrencykit.org)
in their kernel. anyone has any idea about how it could be useful from
a netbsd perspective too? i was under the impression that the kit would
be useful only for userland projects, wonder what role it would play at
the kernel l
running a netbsd vm on a google compute engine is a nice idea, but
that makes me dependent on the network, something which cannot be
trusted to not fail.
> From bsieg...@gmail.com Fri Apr 12 09:05:51 2019
> From: Benny Siegert
> Subject: Re: how to use netbsd with ubuntu?
> To: Ma
> From er.abhinav.upadh...@gmail.com Fri Apr 12 07:45:24 2019
> From: Abhinav Upadhyay
> Subject: Re: how to use netbsd with ubuntu?
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> Cc: NetBSD Users Mailing List
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:03 PM Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> >
> > as i
as in a previous email, i need to use ubuntu as my primary desktop.
i researched various options via googling around as well as asking
this mailing list and it looks like the best thing would be to run
netbsd in a virtual environment. for the same, would "qemu" be
considered good enough? if it is,
> From bsieg...@gmail.com Tue Apr 2 09:30:51 2019
> From: Benny Siegert
> Subject: Re: netbsd development on a raspberry pi
> To: Mayuresh Kathe
> Cc: NetBSD Users
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 10:55 AM Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > the question that i don't ha
hello, returning to netbsd after a long time, feels good to be back.
i am in a peculiar situation for which i can't figure out a solution.
i have my primary desktop, an 'hp-aio' based on a dual-core celeron.
i have to run ubuntu on it since i need to run "google chrome".
i tried "chromium" but that
hello,
would the 4.4bsd book by mckusick, et all be a good start to begin understanding
netbsd internals?
thanks,
-mayuresh
would there be someone here who can translate japanese to english?
i finally found (after asking around) a document which shows how to
prepare netbsd to run under the adapteva parallella;
http://rappappararin.blogspot.jp/2015/01/netbsd-parallella-6.html
but, even running it through "google translat
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 05:57:00PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > hello,
> >
> > i finally got the obj-c book by "brad cox".
> >
> > what are the bare minimum packages needed to start off with
> > lear
hello,
i finally got the obj-c book by "brad cox".
what are the bare minimum packages needed to start off with
learning obj-c under netbsd 6.1.5 (amd64)?
thanks,
~mayuresh
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:18:05AM -0600, Roy Bixler wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:58:03PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > perhaps my googling skills are bad, but i couldn't find a way
> > to present a bootsplash under netbsd.
> >
> > does it exist?
>
hello,
perhaps my googling skills are bad, but i couldn't find a way
to present a bootsplash under netbsd.
does it exist?
if it does, where may i find more information about it's usage?
thanks,
-mayuresh
hello,
thanks to the support i received from the list members.
my hp-aio is now booting netbsd 6.1.4 and working just fine. :)
is there any email address to which i should be sending in the
output of "dmesg"?
best,
~mayuresh
On 2014-09-25 17:41, Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 04:35:05PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
`fdisk wd0` output below.
...
Partition table:
0: GPT Protective MBR (sysid 238)
start 1, size 976773167 (476940 MB, Cyls 0/0/2-60801/80/63)
PBR is not bootable: Bad
On 2014-09-25 17:15, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 05:11:37PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
nothing special, just followed the prompts.
I guess you did something special; like "use existing partitions" when
there's no existing parititon.
Anyway, the problem is t
On 2014-09-25 16:52, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 04:35:05PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
On 2014-09-25 14:15, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:56:32AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
>>>>it says something along the lines of "disk busy, can
On 2014-09-25 16:34, Gerard Lally wrote:
At date and time Thu, 25 Sep 2014 01:42:47 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
okay, i finally got myself a low end machine at an affordable price.
http://hpshopping.in/HP_18-5019il_All-in-One_Desktop_PC
the problems started after unpacking the machine
On 2014-09-25 14:15, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:56:32AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
>>it says something along the lines of "disk busy, can't be used".
>
>This helps a bit (the exact error message would be better).
>Are your trying to instal
On 2014-09-25 11:22, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 02:59:11AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
as i'd mentioned before, the "newfs" command failed to work during
installation process.
this doesn't help
yeah, figured, that's why i'd sent the followin
On 2014-09-25 02:29, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:42:47AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
okay, i finally got myself a low end machine at an affordable price.
http://hpshopping.in/HP_18-5019il_All-in-One_Desktop_PC
the problems started after unpacking the machine.
netbsd 6.1.4
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:59:01PM +0200, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:42:47AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > okay, i finally got myself a low end machine at an affordable price.
> > http://hpshopping.in/HP_18-5019il_All-in-One_Desktop_PC
> >
> >
okay, i finally got myself a low end machine at an affordable price.
http://hpshopping.in/HP_18-5019il_All-in-One_Desktop_PC
the problems started after unpacking the machine.
netbsd 6.1.4 (amd64) install cd just won't boot.
after fiddling around with the bios (which looks like uefi), it booted,
On 2014-09-11 00:27, u...@stderr.spb.ru wrote:
Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
On 2014-09-10 18:11, Mayuresh wrote:
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 11:02:42PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
is there something under netbsd which provides capabilities similar
to the linux graphics framebuffer driver?
https
On 2014-09-10 18:11, Mayuresh wrote:
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 11:02:42PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
is there something under netbsd which provides capabilities similar
to the linux graphics framebuffer driver?
https://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-wip-review/2012/02/26/msg001372.html
is there something under netbsd which provides capabilities similar
to the linux graphics framebuffer driver?
it could be used to write 'gui' systems without having to resort to
using the x windowing system.
thanks,
~mayuresh
hello, i have been reading up archives for the topic mentioned in the
subject.
may i know the state of objective-c support under netbsd 6.1.4 as well
as the
upcoming 7.0?
thanks,
~mayuresh
On 2014-09-05 04:00, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
Hello Mayuresh Kathe,
You may be interested in ideas from MirBSD, they run for 10 years
without C++ in base.
yes, i have heard of them, and interacted with thorsten regarding mksh,
seemed like a good guy.
i am also drawing inspiration from openbsd
On 2014-09-05 02:34, Matt Thomas wrote:
On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
hello,
due to unforeseen circumstances, i need to cut down on my budget for a
machine to run netbsd on.
How much of a budget?
us$330.
intended use of the machine;
1. re-write as many of the base
hello,
due to unforeseen circumstances, i need to cut down on my budget for a
machine to run netbsd on.
intended use of the machine;
1. re-write as many of the base tree c++ tools/utils in c89 as required
for a functional system.
2. work at getting as much of a functional system as possible u
hello,
i read that all new code in the netbsd tree "has" to be c99.
is that really a mandatory condition?
if yes, would that mean, over a period of time, all of the
netbsd userland would be converted to c99?
and would the kernel be brought up to that same standard?
if yes, wouldn't it be quite a
hello,
i apologise upfront if this is the wrong list for the question,
and would appreciate being pointed to the right one.
i just read on the netbsd projects list page that the website
infrastructure maintenance depends on a xml, xslt and make.
does that mean that the website is written primari
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 08:34:10AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
>
> Mayuresh Kathe writes:
>
> > i have no idea about what kind of hardware would be required for
> > performing an entire netbsd build within acceptable time-frames,
> > say 1 hour (without x win).
> &g
On 2014-06-22 16:55, Martin Husemann wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 04:50:52PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
i wonder what that "dk0" thing is.
This is your problem. Auto-discovery code created a wedge for you -
dmesg
should tell you more details. this wedge covers parts of your
On 2014-06-22 16:36, Martin Husemann wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 04:21:12PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
"ls -l /dev/rwd0a" reports the following;
crw-r- 1 root operator 3, 0 Jun 22 10:14 /dev/rwd0a
This all looks fine. Are you working with a custom kernel?
What do
On 2014-06-22 15:39, Martin Husemann wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 03:36:23PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
i tried re-running 'newfs' as below;
/sbin/newfs -V2 -O 2 -b 32768 -f 4096 /dev/rwd0a
it gave the same error as before (below);
newfs: /dev/rwd0a: open for read: D
On 2014-06-22 15:33, Martin Husemann wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 03:25:05PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
did, here's the output;
root_device on / type cd9660 (read-only, local)
tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (union, local)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (local)
tmpfs on /var type tmpfs (local)
tmp
On 2014-06-22 14:19, Martin Husemann wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:04:15AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
it gave me the following error;
newfs: /dev/rwd0a: open for read: Device busy
You should check the output of mount in this case - it is probably
already
mounted somewhere.
did
On 2014-06-22 14:19, Martin Husemann wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:04:15AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
it gave me the following error;
newfs: /dev/rwd0a: open for read: Device busy
You should check the output of mount in this case - it is probably
already
mounted somewhere.
will do
hello,
looks like my current machine is dying, hence all the problems with
even installing netbsd 6.1.4 on it.
i would be going for a new machine, primarily with the intent of
custom building netbsd for a particular tinkering project.
i have no idea about what kind of hardware would be required
hello,
i had to wipe out my system and reinstall 6.1.4 (for amd64) because my
constant tinkering messed up something somewhere and the system stopped
booting successfully.
during the install, at the point where newfs is run it stopped moving
ahead.
it mentioned something about rwd0a being busy
hello,
while i was drawn to netbsd because of the upcoming lua
support in the kernel and userland, i am quite lost about
the probable use cases for real-world scenarios.
prima-face, it feels quite strange to have a scriptable
kernel and have that capability extended through out the
userland.
i h
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 08:19:04AM +0200, Martin Husemann wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 07:40:52AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > i have heard good things about pcc, mostly, except for perhaps the
> > fact that it doesn't yet support all the netbsd platforms which
>
hello,
i just read a note somewhere on the web about netbsd folks trying
out an alternative compiler set (pcc).
did that not work out?
i have heard good things about pcc, mostly, except for perhaps the
fact that it doesn't yet support all the netbsd platforms which
gcc does.
so does that mean g
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:14:54AM +0900, Ryo ONODERA wrote:
> From: Mayuresh Kathe , Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:18:35
> +
>
> > hello,
> >
> > i have been using mutt under various linux based systems as
> > well as under freebsd.
> >
> > looks l
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:32:32PM +0200, Leonardo Taccari wrote:
> Hello Mayuresh,
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 06:18:35PM +, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > hello,
> >
> > i have been using mutt under various linux based systems as
> > well as under freebsd.
&
hello,
i have been using mutt under various linux based systems as
well as under freebsd.
looks like the mutt under netbsd (via pkgin) doesn't support
smtp (yet).
may i know what kind of strategy mutt aficionados use to get
mutt working well under netbsd?
if there isn't a simple way, may i know
> BEst Regards.
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > hello,
> >
> > are there any web hosting providers specializing in netbsd?
> > would like to evalute some for my client who's expressed
> > interest in moving away from linux
hello,
are there any web hosting providers specializing in netbsd?
would like to evalute some for my client who's expressed
interest in moving away from linux (centos).
thanks,
~mayuresh
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 03:58:29PM +0100, atomicules wrote:
> On 17-Jun-2014 16:45:10, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> >On 17 June 2014 16:38, atomicules wrote:
> >>Just use it day to day. I don't see that NetBSD has to be reserved to a
> >>system/server role
> >
> >Sure, but this is unfortunately not in
hello,
it's been 3 days since i took advice from "aaron b" and migrated
to netbsd from openbsd.
i won't go overboard and say that i'm an instant fan-boy, but
frankly, the system feels the same, yet quite different.
for one, the responsiveness while using the operating system is
much better than
hello,
i messed up my 6.1.4 on amd64 system, so did a fresh install.
everything went well, but while first boot, it showed;
boot device:
root device
it just stayed put till the point i installed another system
and then re-installed netbsd 6.1.4, this time, everything
went well, including the fi
hello,
is there any reason why the right hand side ctrl and alt keys
on the keyboard don't work while attempting to switch virtual
terminals, eg. ctrl + alt + fnx?
i am now running 6.1.4 on an amd64.
should i be sending in the dmesg too?
thanks,
~mayuresh
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 04:07:06AM -0700, Edward M wrote:
>
> On 06/15/14 03:59, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> >hello,
> >
> >are there any books which are specific to netbsd?
> >i saw a 2 volume set called "netbsd system manager's manual" by
> >je
hello,
are there any books which are specific to netbsd?
i saw a 2 volume set called "netbsd system manager's manual" by jeremy c
reed on amazon.com, but it is from june 2010, infact, over 4 years old.
isn't there anything newer?
thanks,
~mayuresh
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 08:35:16PM +0200, Leonardo Taccari wrote:
> Hello Mayuresh,
>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 05:57:50PM +, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > is there any way to test hardware support without installing netbsd?
> > i could always convince the vendor to le
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 07:50:31PM +0200, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> On 14 June 2014 17:43, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > does anyone has any experience running netbsd 6.1.4 on
> > a lenovo m72e tiny machine?
>
> I have experience of this machines running Windows 7 at the local
&
hello,
i am new to netbsd, currently running 6.1.2 on my old
assembled desktop.
does anyone has any experience running netbsd 6.1.4 on
a lenovo m72e tiny machine?
would like to know if there are any issues like excessive
heating or anything else i should be aware of before going
ahead with the p
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