Auke Kok wrote:
This patch adds support for the Intel 82598 PCI-Express 10GbE
chipset. Devices will be available on the market soon.
Also available through http and git:
http://foo-projects.org/~sofar/ixgbe-20070803-submission.patch
http://foo-projects.org/~sofar/ixgbe-20070803
From: "Michael Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:32:34 -0700
> [BNX2]: Fix suspend/resume problem.
>
> The device would not resume properly if it was shutdown before the system
> was suspended. In such scenario where the netif_running state is 0,
> bnx2_suspend() would not save
From: "Michael Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:10:29 -0700
> [TG3]: Fix suspend/resume problem.
>
> Joachim Deguara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> reported that tg3 devices
> would not resume properly if the device was shutdown before the system
> was suspended. In such scenario where t
On 8/4/07, Dave Dillow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 09:04 +0400, Manu Abraham wrote:
> > On 7/31/07, Evgeniy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > TODO list currently includes following main items:
> > > * redundancy algorithm (drop me a request of your own, but it
[BNX2]: Add iSCSI support to BNX2 devices.
Modify bnx2 and add a cnic driver to support some offload functions
needed by iSCSI.
Add a new open-iscsi driver to support iSCSI offload on bnx2 devices.
Signed-off-by: Anil Veerabhadrappa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Signed-off-by: Michael Chan <[EMAIL PROTECT
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 09:04 +0400, Manu Abraham wrote:
> On 7/31/07, Evgeniy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > TODO list currently includes following main items:
> > * redundancy algorithm (drop me a request of your own, but it is highly
> > unlikley that Reed-Solomon based wil
This patch adds documentation for the PF_CAN protocol family.
Signed-off-by: Oliver Hartkopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Signed-off-by: Urs Thuermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
Documentation/networking/00-INDEX |2
Documentation/networking/can.txt | 635 ++
2 file
This patch adds the CAN broadcast manager (bcm) protocol.
Signed-off-by: Oliver Hartkopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Signed-off-by: Urs Thuermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
include/linux/can/bcm.h | 65 +
net/can/Kconfig | 28
net/can/Makefile|3
net/can/bcm.c | 1755 +++
This patch adds the CAN raw protocol.
Signed-off-by: Oliver Hartkopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Signed-off-by: Urs Thuermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
include/linux/can/raw.h | 31 +
net/can/Kconfig | 26 +
net/can/Makefile|3
net/can/raw.c | 757 ++
This patch adds a protocol/address family number, ARP hardware type,
ethernet packet type, and a line discipline number for the SocketCAN
implementation.
Signed-off-by: Oliver Hartkopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Signed-off-by: Urs Thuermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
include/linux/if_arp.h |1 +
inc
This patch adds entries in the CREDITS and MAINTAINERS file for CAN.
Signed-off-by: Oliver Hartkopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Signed-off-by: Urs Thuermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
CREDITS | 16
MAINTAINERS |9 +
2 files changed, 25 insertions(+)
Index: net-2.6/CREDIT
This patch adds the virtual CAN bus (vcan) network driver.
The vcan device is just a loopback device for CAN frames, no
real CAN hardware is involved.
Signed-off-by: Oliver Hartkopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Signed-off-by: Urs Thuermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
drivers/net/Makefile |1
drivers
Hello Dave,
this is the fifth post of the patch series that adds the PF_CAN
protocol family for the Controller Area Network.
Since our last post we have changed the following:
* Remove slab destructor from calls to kmem_cache_alloc().
* Add comments about types defined in can.h.
* Update comment
On Friday 03 August 2007 03:26, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 02:08:24PM -0700, I wrote:
> > I see bits that worry me, e.g.:
> >
> > + req = mempool_alloc(st->w->req_pool, GFP_NOIO);
> >
> > which seems to be callable in response to a local request, just the
> > case w
Hi Mike,
On Thursday 02 August 2007 21:09, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> But NBD's synchronous nature is actually an asset when coupled with
> MD raid1 as it provides guarantees that the data has _really_ been
> mirrored remotely.
And bio completion doesn't?
Regards,
Daniel
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Hi Evgeniy,
Nit alert:
On Tuesday 31 July 2007 10:13, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> * storage can be formed on top of remote nodes and be exported
> simultaneously (iSCSI is peer-to-peer only, NBD requires device
> mapper and is synchronous)
In fact, NBD has nothing to do with device
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Software interrupts might be getting lost, dev_kfree_skb_irq() has to
> queue the kfree_skb() to soft IRQ.
>
> Therefore, dev_kfree_skb_irq() will only work properly from hardware
> interrupt context, where we will return and thus run the scheduled
> soft
[BNX2]: Fix suspend/resume problem.
The device would not resume properly if it was shutdown before the system
was suspended. In such scenario where the netif_running state is 0,
bnx2_suspend() would not save the PCI state and so the memory enable bit
and bus master enable bit would be lost.
We f
From: Evgeniy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 12:22:42 +0400
> Maybe recvmsg should be changed too for symmetry?
I took a look at this, and it's not %100 trivial.
Let's do this later, and only sendmsg for now in order to
fix the bug in the stable branches.
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Kok, Auke wrote:
Andrew Gallatin wrote:
To follow up on Jan-Bernd Themann's LRO patch earlier today,
this patch shows how the generic LRO interface can be used for
page based drivers.
Again, many thanks to Jan-Bernd Themann for leading this effort.
Drew
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Andrew Gallatin wrote:
To follow up on Jan-Bernd Themann's LRO patch earlier today,
this patch shows how the generic LRO interface can be used for
page based drivers.
Again, many thanks to Jan-Bernd Themann for leading this effort.
Drew
Singed off by: Andrew Gallatin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
pl
Jan-Bernd Themann wrote:
This patch shows how the generic LRO interface is used for SKB mode
Signed-off-by: Jan-Bernd Themann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
drivers/net/Kconfig |1 +
drivers/net/ehea/ehea.h |9 -
drivers/net/ehea/ehea_ethtool.c | 15 +++
drivers/
From: Evgeniy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 12:22:42 +0400
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 07:21:34PM -0700, David Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
> > What in the world are we doing allowing stream sockets to autobind?
> > That is totally bogus. Even if we autobind, that won't
On Friday 03 August 2007 07:53, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:49 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:27:52PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > ...my main position is to
> > allocate per socket reserve from socket's queue, and copy data
> > there from main
On Friday 03 August 2007 06:49, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> ...rx has global reserve (always allocated on
> startup or sometime way before reclaim/oom)where data is originally
> received (including skb, shared info and whatever is needed, page is
> just an exmaple), then it is copied into per-socket
On 03/08/07 18:39, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 05:51:42PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>
>> 17:38:03.533589 IP 192.168.7.4.50550 > 192.168.7.8.2500: R
>> 82517592:82517592(0) win 1500 (raw)
>> vs
>> 17:37:38.383085 IP 192.168.7.8.2500 > 192.168.7.4.50550
On 14:44 Fri 03 Aug 2007, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:33:04 +0900 Tejun Heo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Devres makes low level drivers simpler, easier to get right and
> > >> maintain. Writing new drivers becomes easier too. So, why not?
> > >>
> > >>> Network devices
Replacing accesses to dev->priv to netdev_priv(dev). The replacment
is safe when netdev_priv is used to access a private structure that is
right next to the net_device structure in memory. Cf
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.development.system/browse_thread/thread/de19321bcd94dbb8/0d74
Replacing accesses to dev->priv to netdev_priv(dev). The replacment
is safe when netdev_priv is used to access a private structure that is
right next to the net_device structure in memory. Cf
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.development.system/browse_thread/thread/de19321bcd94dbb8/0d74
Replacing accesses to dev->priv to netdev_priv(dev). The replacment
is safe when netdev_priv is used to access a private structure that is
right next to the net_device structure in memory. Cf
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.development.system/browse_thread/thread/de19321bcd94dbb8/0d74
Replacing accesses to dev->priv to netdev_priv(dev). The replacment
is safe when netdev_priv is used to access a private structure that is
right next to the net_device structure in memory. Cf
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.development.system/browse_thread/thread/de19321bcd94dbb8/0d74
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 05:51:42PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> 17:38:03.533589 IP 192.168.7.4.50550 > 192.168.7.8.2500: R
> 82517592:82517592(0) win 1500 (raw)
> vs
> 17:37:38.383085 IP 192.168.7.8.2500 > 192.168.7.4.50550: R
> 4259643274:4259643274(0) ack 1171836829 win 14
Add xt_statistic.h to the list of headers to install.
Apparently needed to build newer versions of iptables.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
include/linux/netfilter/Kbuild |1 +
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
--- linux-2.6.22.noarch.orig/include/linux/netfilter/Kbuild
++
To follow up on Jan-Bernd Themann's LRO patch earlier today,
this patch shows how the generic LRO interface can be used for
page based drivers.
Again, many thanks to Jan-Bernd Themann for leading this effort.
Drew
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diff -urNp a/drivers/net/myri1
On 03/08/07 13:09, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:03:46PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>> On Fri, August 3, 2007 12:56, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
>> > On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 12:21:46PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> > wrote:
>> >> Since the con
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:49 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:27:52PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:57 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> >
> > > For receiving situation is worse, since system does not know in advance
> > >
On Fri, 3 August 2007 14:41:19 +0200, Jan-Bernd Themann wrote:
>
> This patch provides generic Large Receive Offload (LRO) functionality
> for IPv4/TCP traffic.
>
> LRO combines received tcp packets to a single larger tcp packet and
> passes them then to the network stack in order to increase pe
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:27:52PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:57 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
>
> > For receiving situation is worse, since system does not know in advance
> > to which socket given packet will belong to, so it must allocate from
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:33:04 +0900
Tejun Heo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >> Skimming through drivers... via-rhine doesn't disable PCI device on
> >> init failure path but does so on removal. sky2 doesn't free
> >> consistent memory if sky2_init() fails. ac
This patch shows how the generic LRO interface is used for SKB mode
Signed-off-by: Jan-Bernd Themann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
drivers/net/Kconfig |1 +
drivers/net/ehea/ehea.h |9 -
drivers/net/ehea/ehea_ethtool.c | 15 +++
drivers/net/ehea/ehea_main.c|
This patch provides generic Large Receive Offload (LRO) functionality
for IPv4/TCP traffic.
LRO combines received tcp packets to a single larger tcp packet and
passes them then to the network stack in order to increase performance
(throughput). The interface supports two modes: Drivers can either
Hi,
I think this patch could be the final version for now. It has been tested
on two platforms (power and x86_64) and works very well.
Apart from David Miller and Evgeniy Polaykov, we'd like to thank especially
Andrew Gallatin for his great reviews and help to make that happen.
After some discus
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:57 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> For receiving situation is worse, since system does not know in advance
> to which socket given packet will belong to, so it must allocate from
> global pool (and thus there must be independent global reserve), and
> then exchange part o
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:57:00PM +0200, Marcin Ślusarz wrote:
...
> I'll test this patch tomorrow (and confirm that the last one from Ingo
> works fine) and report results on monday (sorry, no internet at home
> since I moved out of city :|).
So, you are a lucky guy! I have only no internet at h
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:03:46PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Fri, August 3, 2007 12:56, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 12:21:46PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > wrote:
> >> Since the connection is considered closed, couldn't another sock
On Fri, August 3, 2007 12:56, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 12:21:46PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>> Since the connection is considered closed, couldn't another socket re-use it?
>>
>> Socket A: Recv data (unread)
>> Socket A: Recv RST
>> Socket B: Reuses
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 12:21:46PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> Since the connection is considered closed, couldn't another socket re-use it?
>
> Socket A: Recv data (unread)
> Socket A: Recv RST
> Socket B: Reuses connection (same IPs/ports)
> Socket A: Close
>
> Wouldn't th
2007/8/3, Jarek Poplawski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 10:04:08AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Jarek Poplawski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I can't guarantee this is all needed to fix this bug, but I think this
> > > patch is necessary here.
> >
> > hmmm ... very in
Hi,
this implements support for USB autosuspend in the asix USB ethernet
driver.
Regards
Oliver
Signed-off-by: Oliver Neukum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
---
--- a/drivers/net/usb/asix.c2007-08-03 13:16:31.0 +0200
+++ b/drivers/net/usb/asix.c2007-08-03 13:17:05.000
Hello,
Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>> Skimming through drivers... via-rhine doesn't disable PCI device on
>> init failure path but does so on removal. sky2 doesn't free
>> consistent memory if sky2_init() fails. acenic calls iounmap() with
>> NULL parameter which I'm not sure whether it's safe or n
On Fri, August 3, 2007 09:25, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 07:58:03PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>> 19:24:32.897071 IP 192.168.7.4.5 > 192.168.7.8.2500: S
>> 705362199:705362199(0) win 1500
>> 19:24:32.897211 IP 192.168.7.8.2500 > 192.168.7.4.5:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 19:26:45 +0900
Tejun Heo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 09:58:57AM +0100, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:42:06 -0700
> > Brandon Philips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > This patch set adds support for devres in the net core and con
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:26:29PM +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> > Memory deadlock is a concern of course. From a cursory glance through,
> > it looks like this code is pretty vm-friendly and you have thought
> > quite a lot about it, however I respectfully invite peterz
Hi.
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 09:04:51AM +0400, Manu Abraham ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On 7/31/07, Evgeniy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > TODO list currently includes following main items:
> > * redundancy algorithm (drop me a request of your own, but it is highly
> > unl
Hi Mike.
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 12:09:02AM -0400, Mike Snitzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> > * storage can be formed on top of remote nodes and be exported
> > simultaneously (iSCSI is peer-to-peer only, NBD requires device
> > mapper and is synchronous)
>
> Having the in-k
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 02:08:24PM -0700, Daniel Phillips ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 July 2007 10:13, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I'm pleased to announce first release of the distributed storage
> > subsystem, which allows to form a storage on top of remote and local
>
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 09:58:57AM +0100, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:42:06 -0700
> Brandon Philips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > This patch set adds support for devres in the net core and converts the
> > e100 and e1000 drivers to devres. Devres is a simple resource manag
Small patch to H-TCP from Douglas Leith.
Fix estimation of maxRTT. The original code ignores rtt measurements
during slow start (via the check tp->snd_ssthresh < 0x) yet this
is probably a good time to try to estimate max rtt as delayed acking
is disabled and slow start will only exit on a l
On Thursday 02 August 2007 21:10:29 Michael Chan wrote:
> Alternatively, we can also fix it by calling pci_enable_device() again
> in tg3_open(). But I think it is better to just always save and restore
> in suspend/resume. bnx2.c will also require the same fix.
>
> Thanks Joachim for helping to
On 18:13 Fri 03 Aug 2007, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > + p = devres_alloc(devm_free_netdev, 0, GFP_KERNEL);
>
> s/0/sizeof(*p)/
Oops! It should have read like this:
+static void * register_netdev_devres(struct device *gendev,
+ struct net_device *dev)
+{
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:45:52PM -0700, Brandon Philips wrote:
> if ((err = pci_request_regions(pdev, e1000_driver_name)))
> - goto err_pci_reg;
> + goto err_dma;
Why not just return? Ditto for all goto err_dma's.
> err = -EIO;
> - adapter->hw.hw_addr =
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:45:45PM -0700, Brandon Philips wrote:
> /**
> + * devm_kcalloc - resource-managed kcalloc
> + * @dev: Device to allocate memory for
> + * @n: number of elements.
> + * @size: element size.
> + * @flags: the type of memory to allocate.
> + */
> +inline void * devm_kcalloc
Brandon Philips wrote:
> On a slot_reset event pci_disable_device() is never called so calling
> pci_enable_device() will unbalance the enable count.
>
> Signed-off-by: Brandon Philips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Acked-by: Tejun Heo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:45:37PM -0700, Brandon Philips wrote:
> if((err = pci_request_regions(pdev, DRV_NAME))) {
> DPRINTK(PROBE, ERR, "Cannot obtain PCI resources, aborting.\n");
> - goto err_out_disable_pdev;
> + return err;
> }
>
> if
> +static inline void * register_netdev_devres(struct device *gendev,
> + struct net_device *dev)
> +{
> + struct net_device **p;
> +
> + /* 0 size because we don't need it. The net_device is already alloc'd
> + * in alloc_netdev_mq. We can'
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 10:04:08AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Jarek Poplawski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I can't guarantee this is all needed to fix this bug, but I think this
> > patch is necessary here.
>
> hmmm ... very interesting! Now _this_ is something we'd like to see
> test
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:42:06 -0700
Brandon Philips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This patch set adds support for devres in the net core and converts the
> e100 and e1000 drivers to devres. Devres is a simple resource manager
> for device drivers, see Documentation/driver-model/devres.txt for more
>
Please pull from 'ucc_geth' branch of
master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/leo/fsl-soc.git ucc_geth
to receive the following fixes:
drivers/net/ucc_geth_ethtool.c |1 -
drivers/net/ucc_geth_mii.c |3 ++-
2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
Domen Puncer (1):
* Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Jarek Poplawski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I can't guarantee this is all needed to fix this bug, but I think
> > this patch is necessary here.
>
> hmmm ... very interesting! Now _this_ is something we'd like to see
> tested. Could you send a
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 07:58:03PM +0100, Simon Arlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> 19:24:32.897071 IP 192.168.7.4.5 > 192.168.7.8.2500: S
> 705362199:705362199(0) win 1500
> 19:24:32.897211 IP 192.168.7.8.2500 > 192.168.7.4.5: S
> 4159455228:4159455228(0) ack 705362200 win 14360
> 19:2
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 07:21:34PM -0700, David Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 10:08:42PM +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov ([EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > So, following patch fixes problem for me.
> >
> > Or this one. Essentially the same though.
> >
> > Signed-off-by
* Jarek Poplawski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't guarantee this is all needed to fix this bug, but I think this
> patch is necessary here.
hmmm ... very interesting! Now _this_ is something we'd like to see
tested. Could you send a patch to Marcin that also undoes the workaround
we have
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 10:59:23AM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:00:08AM +0200, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 09:02:19PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
...
> > > How about cc:ing the netpoll maintainer?
> >
> > Is there a new one or do you suggest possibi
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