Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Phil Shafer
Robert Wilton writes: >ii) However, as far as I can see, it doesn't make sense for an action to >directly affect the contents of any configuration datastore, that should >be done via a purpose built rpc (like edit-config). An example action would be to retrieve the fingerprint of an ssh key. I

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-ding-netmod-arp-yang-model-00.txt

2017-10-31 Thread dingxiaojian (A)
Hi Alex, Thank you for your review of the draft and thoughtful comments, sincerely appreciated. Sorry for the delay, please find my answers and notes in-line tagged DXJ>>. Regards, Xiaojian -邮件原件- 发件人: Alex Campbell [mailto:alex.campb...@aviatnet.com] 发送时间: 2017年10月27日 6:30 收件人: dingxi

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8022bis-01.txt

2017-10-31 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Routing Management (NDMA Version) Authors : Ladislav Lhotka

[netmod] YANG model for netowrk configuration of a device's management interface

2017-10-31 Thread Jan Kundrát
Hi, I'm working on adding NETCONF support for configuring network on a few management interfaces of our product, a random network appliance. I would prefer not to reinvent this particular wheel, so I started searching for existing models. I was surprised that it seems that all vendors essential

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8022bis-00.txt

2017-10-31 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Routing Management (NDMA Version) Authors : Ladislav Lhotka

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Alexander Clemm
Hi Rob, A few comments, inline --- Alex From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Wilton Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:14 AM To: Martin Bjorklund ; a...@yumaworks.com; netmod@ietf.org; Randy Presuhn Subject: Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Hi, Here is anot

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Andy Bierman
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Randy Presuhn < randy_pres...@alumni.stanford.edu> wrote: > Hi - > > On 10/31/2017 10:14 AM, Andy Bierman wrote: > ... > >> The system side effects are irrelevant, but both the same for rpc and >> action. >> > > Knowing what the system side effects are is *ESSENTI

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - On 10/31/2017 10:14 AM, Andy Bierman wrote: ... The system side effects are irrelevant, but both the same for rpc and action. Knowing what the system side effects are is *ESSENTIAL* if these things are to be of any use operationally. The only issues relevant to YANG are:    - datastore

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Andy Bierman
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Andy Bierman wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Randy Presuhn < > > randy_pres...@alumni.stanford.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > The is not really in a datastore at all. > > It may have input and output parameters with leafref

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Robert Wilton
On 31/10/2017 15:14, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 02:14:20PM +, Robert Wilton wrote: Is always the right datastore to evaluate RPC input/output data relative to?  For most RPCs this seems to be the right choice by default but it also seems plausible that someone m

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 03:35:38PM +, Kent Watsen wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > > 6.2 Invocation of RPC Operations > > > > This section updates section 7.14 of RFC 7950. > > > > RPCs MAY be defined as affecting the contents of a specific datastore, > > any configuration datastore (e.g., ), or

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Robert Wilton
On 31/10/2017 15:35, Kent Watsen wrote: Hi Robert, 6.2 Invocation of RPC Operations This section updates section 7.14 of RFC 7950. RPCs MAY be defined as affecting the contents of a specific datastore, any configuration datastore (e.g., ), or any datastore (e.g., ).  The RPC definition spec

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Kent Watsen
Hi Robert, > 6.2 Invocation of RPC Operations > > This section updates section 7.14 of RFC 7950. > > RPCs MAY be defined as affecting the contents of a specific datastore, > any configuration datastore (e.g., ), or any datastore > (e.g., ).  The RPC definition specifies how the RPC input >

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 02:14:20PM +, Robert Wilton wrote: > Is always the right datastore to evaluate RPC input/output > data relative to?  For most RPCs this seems to be the right choice by > default but it also seems plausible that someone may wish to define an RPC > that wants to validate

Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-acee-netmod-rfc8022bis-03

2017-10-31 Thread Kent Watsen
This poll is now closed. draft-acee-netmod-rfc8022bis-03 is adopted. Authors, as discussed below, please resubmit acee-03 as ietf-00. Since the submission window has closed, the chairs will ask for a submission-exception. Please, shortly after submitting the -00, submit a -01 per below (essen

Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements

2017-10-31 Thread Robert Wilton
Hi, Here is another attempt for proposed text for Actions/RPC statements in NMDA. 6.2 Invocation of RPC Operations This section updates section 7.14 of RFC 7950. RPCs MAY be defined as affecting the contents of a specific datastore, any configuration datastore (e.g., ), or any datastore (e

[netmod] ietf-access-control-l...@2017-10-03.yang : Can access-lists use a grouping?

2017-10-31 Thread M. Ranganathan
Re-posted from OPSAWG list : Hello, In the file ietf-access-control-l...@2017-10-03.yang I see that access-lists is directly defined as a collection. May I suggest making a grouping (say access-lists-grouping) and use a "uses" statement in access-lists. The use-case for this change request

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-06.txt

2017-10-31 Thread Robert Wilton
So this version of the draft contains the small change that defines "datastore schema" and describes the "datastore schema" of as being the superset of the datastore schema for all the configuration datastores. There are two remaining issues open on the issue tracker (https://github.com/netm

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-14

2017-10-31 Thread Kristian Larsson
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:47:54AM +0100, Eliot Lear wrote: > Hi Kristian, > > Just my view below: > > > On 10/31/17 11:25 AM, Kristian Larsson wrote: > > > This brings us to the acl-type. It seems to me that this is > > primarily for being able to do YANG validation when a device does > > NOT

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-14

2017-10-31 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Kristian, Just my view below: On 10/31/17 11:25 AM, Kristian Larsson wrote: > This brings us to the acl-type. It seems to me that this is > primarily for being able to do YANG validation when a device does > NOT support a unified model. I.e. if Linux nftables was all we > wanted to model, th

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-14

2017-10-31 Thread Kristian Larsson
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 09:37:04PM +, Kent Watsen wrote: > > All, > > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-14. > > The working group last call ends on November 3. > Please send your comments to the netmod mailing list. I initially read this draft