Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2017-12-19 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 07:11:59AM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 15:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > > lada, > > > > See below. > > > > > > On 12/15/2017 8:59 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > unfortunately, using an action for querying embedded YANG libr

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2017-12-19 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 10:05 +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 07:11:59AM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 15:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > > > lada, > > > > > > See below. > > > > > > > > > On 12/15/2017 8:59 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > >

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2017-12-19 Thread Lou Berger
Lada, On December 19, 2017 1:12:35 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 15:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: lada, See below. On 12/15/2017 8:59 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Hi, > > unfortunately, using an action for querying embedded YANG library data > (needed for the "inline"

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2017-12-19 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 06:20 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > Lada, > > > On December 19, 2017 1:12:35 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 15:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > > > lada, > > > > > > See below. > > > > > > > > > On 12/15/2017 8:59 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > >

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2017-12-19 Thread Lou Berger
Woops that should be rw... On December 19, 2017 6:21:22 AM Lou Berger wrote: Lada, On December 19, 2017 1:12:35 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 15:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: lada, See below. On 12/15/2017 8:59 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Hi, > > unfortunately, u

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2017-12-19 Thread Lou Berger
Hi Lada, On 12/19/2017 6:23 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 06:20 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: >> Lada, >> >> >> On December 19, 2017 1:12:35 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 15:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: lada, See below. On

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2017-12-19 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 06:43 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi Lada, > > On 12/19/2017 6:23 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 06:20 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > > > Lada, > > > > > > > > > On December 19, 2017 1:12:35 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 15

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2017-12-19 Thread Lou Berger
On 12/19/2017 7:36 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 06:43 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: >> Hi Lada, >> >> On 12/19/2017 6:23 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >>> On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 06:20 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: Lada, On December 19, 2017 1:12:35 AM Ladislav Lhotka

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2017-12-19 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 07:49 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > > On 12/19/2017 7:36 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 06:43 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > > > Hi Lada, > > > > > > On 12/19/2017 6:23 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 06:20 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > >

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03.txt

2017-12-19 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : YANG Tree Diagrams Authors : Martin Bjorklund Lou Berger Filename:

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03.txt

2017-12-19 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, This version changes the intended status to BCP, and adds the "-u" notation for non-expanded uses statements. We believe this draft is now ready for WGLC. [FYI - I have added an option --tree-no-expand-uses to pyang, which uses this new notation.] /martin internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:

[netmod] Augmentation to Groupings

2017-12-19 Thread Xufeng Liu
During the discussions of TE tunnel and topology models, we have found that it is desirable to have the capability of augmenting a grouping. In our case, there are multiple technology specific models augmenting a base generic model. In the base model, some groupings are used multiple times, and ea

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03.txt

2017-12-19 Thread Lou Berger
FYI - note this version does not include a reference to a wiki, as discussed at IETF100, based on the on-list discussion. Lou (as co-author) On 12/19/2017 9:34 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > This version changes the intended status to BCP, and adds the "-u" > notation for non-expanded uses

Re: [netmod] Augmentation to Groupings

2017-12-19 Thread Jeff Tantsura
+1 Very much needed capability Regards, Jeff > On Dec 19, 2017, at 08:45, Xufeng Liu wrote: > > During the discussions of TE tunnel and topology models, we have found that > it is desirable to have the capability of augmenting a grouping. > > In our case, there are multiple technology specif

Re: [netmod] Augmentation to Groupings

2017-12-19 Thread Alexander Clemm
+1 I would like to see such a capability as well. As mentioned, specifically when groupings are used in multiple places, augmentation becomes really unwieldy without an option to simply augment the grouping instead. It also gets harder to read; to some degree it negates the benefits from ntro

[netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams - IPR verfication request

2017-12-19 Thread joel jaeggli
Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR bee

Re: [netmod] Augmentation to Groupings

2017-12-19 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
The current approach may be verbose but it protects users of groupings from unwanted and uncontrolled side effects. Augmenting a grouping as suggested affects _all_ uses of a grouping; this can be tricky in situations where groupings are widely used. /js On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:45:06AM -0500,

Re: [netmod] Augmentation to Groupings

2017-12-19 Thread Alexander Clemm
IMHO it would be worth a try. If you wanted to only augment _some_ uses of a grouping, you could still do the same as today. Also, I would expect augmentations to only affect servers that support the module defining the augmentation. If verbosity were not an issue, why were groupings introduc

Re: [netmod] Augmentation to Groupings

2017-12-19 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, I do not want YANG to have augment for groupings because there is no way to control all possible uses-stmts and make sure the augmentation is only used where intended. This seems no different than OO code. A new class name is required for the derived class. In YANG a new grouping is required

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams - IPR verfication request, draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams - IPR verfication request

2017-12-19 Thread Martin Bjorklund
joel jaeggli wrote: > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft /martin > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IP

Re: [netmod] Augmentation to Groupings

2017-12-19 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
The question is not why we have groupings, the question is why augmentations are restricted to schema node identifiers. I provided an answer for the later, namely explicit control of augmentation effects. It is of course OK to disagree with the design. I am just trying to explain that this was an

Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07

2017-12-19 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi Andy, Andy Bierman wrote: > Hi, > > I have reviewed draft-07 and my previous comments about NMDA have been > addressed. > > This might be the most important sentence in the draft: > > sec. 5.3 > >The datastore schema for MUST be a superset of the >combined datastore schema used in

Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07

2017-12-19 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi Lou, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi, > These comments are based on my Shepherd review of this document and > should be addressed as part of addressing any LC comments: > > 1) Considering the recent discussion on Library made me consider the > general case of a module that is composed entirely o

Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07

2017-12-19 Thread Andy Bierman
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi Lou, > > Lou Berger wrote: > > Hi, > > These comments are based on my Shepherd review of this document and > > should be addressed as part of addressing any LC comments: > > > > 1) Considering the recent discussion on Library m

Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07

2017-12-19 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:41:28PM -0800, Andy Bierman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Hi Lou, > > > > Lou Berger wrote: > > > Hi, > > > These comments are based on my Shepherd review of this document and > > > should be addressed as part of address

[netmod] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis-01

2017-12-19 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Joel Jaeggli has requested publication of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis-01 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the NETMOD working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis/ ___ netmod maili

[netmod] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis-01

2017-12-19 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Joel Jaeggli has requested publication of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis-01 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the NETMOD working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis/ ___ netmod maili

[netmod] Last Call: (A YANG Data Model for IP Management) to Proposed Standard

2017-12-19 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Network Modeling WG (netmod) to consider the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for IP Management' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive co

[netmod] Last Call: (A YANG Data Model for Interface Management) to Proposed Standard

2017-12-19 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Network Modeling WG (netmod) to consider the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for Interface Management' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substan