Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-08 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > Let me add that there was large disagreement what a bug fix is in the > design team. Hence, any text that talks about 'bug fixes' is ambiguous > and of limited value to achieve consensus. (Or we may find consensus > but then not agree on what we have found conse

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-08 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 06:50:58AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > > This is what we have today only if modules are updated in legal ways. > > The 3.1 requirement says this backward compatibility is maintained even > > if the module is updated in violation of the m

Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-08 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, After the session today, it seems to me that one fundamental requirement (or non-requirement) is missing. How much branching does the solution have to support? The current solution (6020/7950) and (if I understood Rob Shakir correctly) also openconfig have linear versioning *per module*. If

[netmod] comments on YANG versioning

2018-11-08 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, A few comments on the netmod meeting yesterday 1) what is a bugfix? It is not encouraging that the DT cannot agree on the scope of a bugfix. But not sure it matters if NBC updates can occur for any reason. IMO it is easy to define a bugfix in the IETF -- it is called an Errata. If an Errata i

Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-08 Thread Joe Clarke
On 11/8/18 16:46, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > After the session today, it seems to me that one fundamental > requirement (or non-requirement) is missing. How much branching does > the solution have to support? The current solution (6020/7950) and (if > I understood Rob Shakir correctly) al

Re: [netmod] comments on YANG versioning

2018-11-08 Thread Mahesh Jethanandani
I am wondering if we are looking at two sets of rules for the versioning system we come up with. One that vendors do with their "native" models to satisfy their customers, and the other what standard bodies follow for the models published by them. For example, vendors can make feature and NBC f

Re: [netmod] comments on YANG versioning

2018-11-08 Thread Joe Clarke
On 11/8/18 21:37, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > I am wondering if we are looking at two sets of rules for the versioning > system we come up with. One that vendors do with their "native" models to > satisfy their customers, and the other what standard bodies follow for the > models published by t