[netmod] Doodle pool for Virtual Interim on System Configuration

2021-09-27 Thread Kent Watsen
As Jason just reminds us, it was proposed to have a Virtual Interim to continue the discussion on the System Configuration topic, which generated over 40 messages by Qiufang, Balazs, Andy, Fengchong (frank), Juergen, Jason, Qin, Jan, and myself. Many timezones are spanned by the contributors a

Re: [netmod] [babel] NULL value for uint16

2021-09-27 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - On 2021-09-27 11:35 AM, Andy Bierman wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 10:42 AM Randy Presuhn > wrote: Hi - On 2021-09-27 10:13 AM, Andy Bierman wrote: ... > SNMP GetNext and GetBulk do not handle missing nodes well at all, s

Re: [netmod] system configuration sync mechanism

2021-09-27 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
Hi guys, This is a thorny issue (and clearly of interest to the NETMOD community). There was lots of good discussion but it doesn't feel like we've converged. IMO we need to keep "config templates" as part of this discussion (along with system config). There are some fundamental issues common t

Re: [netmod] [babel] NULL value for uint16

2021-09-27 Thread Andy Bierman
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 10:42 AM Randy Presuhn < randy_pres...@alumni.stanford.edu> wrote: > Hi - > > On 2021-09-27 10:13 AM, Andy Bierman wrote: > ... > > SNMP GetNext and GetBulk do not handle missing nodes well at all, so it > > became > > common practice to return 0 or -1, etc. to simplify cli

Re: [netmod] [babel] NULL value for uint16

2021-09-27 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - On 2021-09-27 10:13 AM, Andy Bierman wrote: ... SNMP GetNext and GetBulk do not handle missing nodes well at all, so it became common practice to return 0 or -1, etc. to simplify client processing of these operations. None of the YANG-based protocols have this problem. In what way would

Re: [netmod] [babel] NULL value for uint16

2021-09-27 Thread Andy Bierman
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 9:21 AM Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) < jason.ste...@nokia.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Reserving a "magic value" like -1 may be workable, but it doesn't feel > like a terribly good fit into YANG. The rest of the range of integer values > are valid and it seems odd to just

Re: [netmod] [babel] NULL value for uint16

2021-09-27 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
Hi all, Reserving a "magic value" like -1 may be workable, but it doesn't feel like a terribly good fit into YANG. The rest of the range of integer values are valid and it seems odd to just tack on a "-1". Why not just make the absence of the leaf mean "not applicable" or "not available" or wh