Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2023-03-15 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
rs 2022 15:04 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ; netmod@ietf.org Objet : RE: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft- boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt writes: ... As a proof of concept, I prepared XSLT stylesheets for a dozen or so registries [1]. Although it works quite

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2023-03-15 Thread mohamed.boucadair
also Section . Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Ladislav Lhotka > Envoyé : vendredi 25 mars 2022 15:04 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ; > netmod@ietf.org > Objet : RE: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft- > boucadair-netmod-iana-regi

[netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-06.txt

2023-01-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
:03 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Objet : New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-06.txt A new version of I-D, draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-06.txt has been successfully submitted by Mohamed Boucadair and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-bouc

[netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-04.txt

2022-09-08 Thread mohamed.boucadair
this comment are more than welcome. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : internet-dra...@ietf.org Envoyé : jeudi 8 septembre 2022 13:51 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Objet : New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-04.txt A new version of I-D,

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-04-29 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt Hi all, FWIW, a new version with the change of a normative language is available at: URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-03.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-30 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, FWIW, a new version with the change of a normative language is available at: URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-03.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries/ Htmlized: https

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-28 Thread mohamed.boucadair
. Will keep that text. Thank you. Cheers, Med De : Andy Bierman Envoyé : lundi 28 mars 2022 20:05 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Cc : Ladislav Lhotka ; Jürgen Schönwälder ; netmod@ietf.org Objet : Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt Hi

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-28 Thread Andy Bierman
> Re-, > > Thanks, Lada. > > I updated the draft accordingly + reflected the interpretation shared by > Jürgen. > > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-02.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-boucadair-netmo

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-28 Thread mohamed.boucadair
ield. The SAFI name space is defined in this document. The IANA registered and maintains values for the SAFI namespace as follows: === Freezing afi-safis in an IETF-maintained module is indeed an example of designs that draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries is trying to avoid. C

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-28 Thread tom petch
> > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > > -Message d'origine----- > > De : internet-dra...@ietf.org > > Envoyé : jeudi 24 mars 2022 10:41 > > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET > > Objet : New Version Notification for > > draft-bouc

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Thanks, Lada. I updated the draft accordingly + reflected the interpretation shared by Jürgen. URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-02.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries/ Htmlized

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
t;> netmod@ietf.org >> Objet : Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair- >> netmod-iana-registries-00.txt >> >> Hi Med, >> >> here are my comments: >> >> YANG modules should be as tightly coupled as possible to the >> corresp

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
ion for draft-boucadair- > netmod-iana-registries-00.txt > > Hi Med, > > here are my comments: > > YANG modules should be as tightly coupled as possible to the > corresponding IANA registries. In an ideal world, YANG would simply have > a statement for using a registry

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
are likely to be out of sync. > > > > Some more details/context are provided in the I-D. > > > > Comments and suggestions are appreciated. > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > > -Message d'origine----- > > De : internet-dra...@ietf.org

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
gt; -Message d'origine- > De : internet-dra...@ietf.org > Envoyé : jeudi 24 mars 2022 10:41 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET > Objet : New Version Notification for > draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt > > > A new version of I-D, draft-boucadair-netmod

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
> > Cheers, > Med > > > -Message d'origine- > > De : Jürgen Schönwälder > > Envoyé : vendredi 25 mars 2022 09:01 > > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET > > Cc : Qin Wu ; netmod@ietf.org > > Objet : Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Jürgen Schönwälder > Envoyé : vendredi 25 mars 2022 09:01 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET > Cc : Qin Wu ; netmod@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-b

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 07:49:42AM +, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: > > Anyway, my main point is that I do not see that the extensibility > > implications of enumerations and identities change just because a module > > is owned by IANA. Allocating a new enum requires an update of the mod

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
a > new value, i.e., vendors can independently allocate values. This > fundamental difference does not change just because a module is owned by > IANA. > > /js > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 06:36:09AM +, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com > wrote: > > Hi all, > > >

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-25 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
e.com wrote: > Hi all, > > FWIW, a new version that reflects the comments heard so far is available > online: > > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-01.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-24 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, FWIW, a new version that reflects the comments heard so far is available online: URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-01.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries/ Htmlized

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-24 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
w Version Notification for > >draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt > > >On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 10:44:42AM +, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: > >> > It seems that later on you are actually changing what RFC 8407 says > >> > although I am not s

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-24 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Agree with Qin. This is one of the usual comments from yangdoctors. The proposed clarification in draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries makes explicit that, for IANA-maintained modules, designers should make a decision based solely on their specific context. Cheers, Med

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-24 Thread Qin Wu
>-邮件原件- >发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Jürgen Sch?nw?lder >发送时间: 2022年3月24日 18:56 >收件人: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com >抄送: netmod@ietf.org >主题: Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for >draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt >On Th

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-24 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 10:44:42AM +, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: > > It seems that later on you are actually changing what RFC 8407 says > > although I am not sure I understand the reasoning. RFC 8407 recommends > > to use enums if there is a single naming authority allocating values a

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-24 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Notification for draft-boucadair- > netmod-iana-registries-00.txt > > Hi, > > the document says that it updates RFC 8407. [Med] yes, it is more "extends" than "amends" (as per https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-kuehlewind-update-tag) except for one point I&#x

Re: [netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-24 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
me more details/context are provided in the I-D. > > Comments and suggestions are appreciated. > > Cheers, > Med > > -Message d'origine- > De : internet-dra...@ietf.org > Envoyé : jeudi 24 mars 2022 10:41 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET > Objet : New Ve

[netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt

2022-03-24 Thread mohamed.boucadair
hamed INNOV/NET Objet : New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Mohamed Boucadair and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-boucadair-netmod

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2021-11-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 29. 11. 21 14:32, Robert Varga wrote: On 26/11/2021 09:30, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: And what do yo do with Early Allocation, which can last more than a year? Sorry, I am not familiar with early allocations, what could be the problem here? The problem is that early allocations are temporary a

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2021-11-29 Thread Robert Varga
On 26/11/2021 09:30, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: And what do yo do with Early Allocation, which can last more than a year? Sorry, I am not familiar with early allocations, what could be the problem here? The problem is that early allocations are temporary and automatically expire in 12 months (rel

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2021-11-26 Thread Carsten Bormann
Hi Lada, > On 2021-11-26, at 09:48, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Carsten Bormann writes: > >> On 2021-11-24, at 09:13, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >>> >>> Please let me know what you think about this. >> >> I think it is amazing. >> >> So for each registry, you have >> >> — manually extracted

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2021-11-26 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Carsten Bormann writes: > On 2021-11-24, at 09:13, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >> Please let me know what you think about this. > > I think it is amazing. > > So for each registry, you have > > — manually extracted an information model and kept that in your head, Well, my old head doesn't serve

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2021-11-26 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
tom petch writes: > From: netmod on behalf of Ladislav Lhotka > > Sent: 24 November 2021 08:13 > > Hi, > > I tried to generalize the approach of RFC 9108 and develop XSLT stylesheets > for generating YANG modules directly from IANA registries. The results are in > this GitHub project: > > ht

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2021-11-25 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2021-11-24, at 09:13, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Please let me know what you think about this. I think it is amazing. So for each registry, you have — manually extracted an information model and kept that in your head, — written code that translates the information you could extract from th

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2021-11-25 Thread tom petch
From: netmod on behalf of Ladislav Lhotka Sent: 24 November 2021 08:13 Hi, I tried to generalize the approach of RFC 9108 and develop XSLT stylesheets for generating YANG modules directly from IANA registries. The results are in this GitHub project: https://github.com/llhotka/iana-yang So

[netmod] IANA registries

2021-11-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Hi, I tried to generalize the approach of RFC 9108 and develop XSLT stylesheets for generating YANG modules directly from IANA registries. The results are in this GitHub project: https://github.com/llhotka/iana-yang So far I have processed 22 registries - most of them are related to DNS, but I

Re: [netmod] IANA registries and YANG

2019-12-18 Thread Kent Watsen
Maybe this approach can be for the algorithms in the "iana-*algs.yang" modules defined in the crypto-types draft. The '*' expands to symmetric, asymmetric, and hash. The problem is that I'm unsure if there is exists 1-1 registries. But, to the extent there are registries, this approach seem

Re: [netmod] IANA registries and YANG

2019-12-17 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Ladislav Lhotka writes: > Hi, > > I would like to discuss the issue of developing YANG modules that mirror IANA > registries. The main objection, raised in DNSOP WG in relation to > draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-02, was that the RFC containing the > initial revision of the module doe

Re: [netmod] IANA registries and YANG

2019-11-19 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Tue, 2019-11-19 at 11:48 +, tom petch wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Ladislav Lhotka" > To: "Martin Bjorklund" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:29 AM > > > On Tue, 2019-11-19 at 11:17 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > Hi, > >

Re: [netmod] IANA registries and YANG

2019-11-19 Thread tom petch
- Original Message - From: "Ladislav Lhotka" To: "Martin Bjorklund" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:29 AM > On Tue, 2019-11-19 at 11:17 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I would like to discuss the issue of developing YANG modules t

Re: [netmod] IANA registries and YANG

2019-11-19 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Tue, 2019-11-19 at 11:17 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to discuss the issue of developing YANG modules that > > mirror IANA registries. The main objection, raised in DNSOP WG in > > relation to draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-02, w

Re: [netmod] IANA registries and YANG

2019-11-19 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to discuss the issue of developing YANG modules that > mirror IANA registries. The main objection, raised in DNSOP WG in > relation to draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-02, was that the > RFC containing the initial revision of the module doesn't

[netmod] IANA registries and YANG

2019-11-19 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Hi, I would like to discuss the issue of developing YANG modules that mirror IANA registries. The main objection, raised in DNSOP WG in relation to draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-02, was that the RFC containing the initial revision of the module doesn't get updated along with the IANA

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2019-10-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Mon, 2019-10-21 at 14:54 +, Kent Watsen wrote: > Hi Lada, > > > Another option, also suggested in DNSOP WG, was to enable YANG to refer > > directly to the IANA registry. > > For crypto types, I don’t know if this it possible, as there may be many > registries involved. > > Regardless,

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2019-10-21 Thread Kent Watsen
Hi Lada, > Another option, also suggested in DNSOP WG, was to enable YANG to refer > directly to the IANA registry. For crypto types, I don’t know if this it possible, as there may be many registries involved. Regardless, what is it that is doing the referring? an identityref? there need

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2019-10-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Kent Watsen writes: > All, > >>> That's a bit odd. But perhaps it can be solved by actually not >>> filling in all values in this module, but rather make it a template >>> and instruct IANA to fill it in with the contents of the registry at >>> the time of publication. >> >> OK, so the module t

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2019-10-17 Thread Kent Watsen
All, >> That's a bit odd. But perhaps it can be solved by actually not >> filling in all values in this module, but rather make it a template >> and instruct IANA to fill it in with the contents of the registry at >> the time of publication. > > OK, so the module template in the RFC couldn't be

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2019-10-10 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 14:07 +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Hi, > > > > some of you have probably seen the discussions around > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-02 > > > > We proposed to adopt it as a work item in the DNSOP WG

Re: [netmod] IANA registries

2019-10-10 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Hi, > > some of you have probably seen the discussions around > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-02 > > We proposed to adopt it as a work item in the DNSOP WG, but despite > some support this is probably not going to happen. The subs

[netmod] IANA registries

2019-10-10 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Hi, some of you have probably seen the discussions around https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-02 We proposed to adopt it as a work item in the DNSOP WG, but despite some support this is probably not going to happen. The substantial objections are: 1. It is not go