On 05/11/2014 03:57 PM, Geert Lovink wrote:
To me, it is somehow super clear that Facebook is evil. Not hard to
understand. But Google? Why are tensions rising so high lately around them?
Look at the tone of the Cory Doctorow blog post to Boing Boing… Don't get me
wrong. But have they
On 12/05/14 03:00, Brian Holmes wrote:
Doctorow is a somewhat different story, no? He may get himself flown
around the world to give talks, but he is not a full-fledged member of
this newly dominant class - all the more so since he seems to identify
himself at least partially with those on
Dear Geert Co
Just to add to the complexity of the picture, Google is a rather
decentralized mess - every googler I meet works on his/her own separate pet
project - so far unable as a whole to take a stand with its billion of
users against govenrments and large corporations, or for that matter
To me, it is somehow super clear that Facebook is evil. Not hard to
understand. But Google? Why are tensions rising so high lately around
them? Look at the tone of the Cory Doctorow blog post to Boing Boing?
Don't get me wrong. But have they really gone down lately? In my
humble view they are
It is very important to understand and critic the political economy of this
emerging new, and possibility of the logic it bears for building counter
class(lessness) strategies. Flos IoE(E meaning Every progressive-revolutionary
agency) political organising can counter the clash of titans by
dear nettimers,
I'm posting this console software release here knowing that many people
reading this list are old-school email aficionados (if not usenet or
even more ancient stuff) hence this aptly named software might be of use
for some. It is what I use myself for the task since several years
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Hey Geert,
The tension between the Bay area elites is less interesting than the
grassroots unrest from the 'data-havenots' who are slowly starting to
feel uncomfortable with the level of governance/jurisdiction that Google
is having in their lives:
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Oh yeah... It's probably just a persons problem.. probably related to
ego and such...
What could be wrong with the not-do-evil Google?
- - the fact that they bent to entertainment industry and were the first
to accept privatized, automated
Brian, nettime,
Brian, you have said this so succinctly...the Bay Area as epicenter of this
technologicalized spread of an apparently securely spreading monoculture,
the globalization of management and work in which a giant like Google or
Twitter or Facebook defines what that is and how much it
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Hans de Zwart hans.dezw...@bof.nl wrote:
Just look at the graph displaying Google's DC lobbying investment and
you will instantly realise that Google is not the same Google that it
was a decade ago.
To chime in here: If Facebook qualifies as scary, then Google
There is also tension within Google, that is interesting to observe.
I have a friend working in Google.org, the humanitarian arm that works
on projects like apps to help find missing persons after some type of
disaster. he and others there are often extremely frustrated by what
goes on over at
Glad to see Google getting it's due but I'm wondering if the deeper
significance and risk posed by Google isn't being a wee bit overlooked
here...
In a blogpost I did about a year ago, I was pointing to Google's victory in
an anti-trust action which was being interpreted as a victory for free
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