nettime social media political activism redux

2014-11-01 Thread allan siegel
Hello, The recent massive public demonstrations in Budapest against a repressive internet tax, amongst other issues, raises once again questions of the role of social media (and Facebook in particular) as mobilising vehicles for social protest and political activism. As Alice Neerson writes in

Re: nettime internet tax .hu

2014-11-01 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
Hi, I am very sorry but this tax is not really much, the other side had allready proposed it, it was a left idea, whatever right and left still mean, and democracy is a very big word. Why do you blame the state for the fact that there is no real opposition in more serious questions? Maybe you

Re: nettime social media political activism redux

2014-11-01 Thread Geert Lovink
Thanks a lot, Allan, this is interesting. The question imho is not how social media relate to the inadequate responses of political parties but if they will generate sustainable 'new institutional forms' over time. What if the current social media only produce one-off events? Protests without a

nettime social media political activism redux

2014-11-01 Thread michael gurstein
A problem with all of this is that the ???hand???s off the Internet??? position is at the very core of a neo-liberal take down of the social contract. The Internet erodes local tax bases, shifts wealth from the poor to the rich, from poor countries to rich ones; and the rallying cry for