Re: Fw: Has the right gone full Alt_?

2020-12-06 Thread Brian Holmes
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 5:23 PM Kurtz, Steven wrote: > The reason knowledge is so important is that it can function as a virtual > glue to build community and a way for many members to say I may not be > educated like the members of the demiurge, but I am more intelligent and > better informed,

Re: Fw: Has the right gone full Alt_?

2020-12-06 Thread Frédéric Neyrat
Thanks - I would not repeat what I tried to think in my other email (just sent) but basically my idea is: first, let's shape our own horizon. It will serve as an attractor. Maybe not a theological one, but a cosmological one. Best FN __ On Sun, Dec

Re: Fw: Has the right gone full Alt_?

2020-12-06 Thread Frédéric Neyrat
d > if it is not accompanied by a massive intervention campaigns into the > Gnostic networks of alternative reality. This is such a significant site in > the lives of millions, and we ignore it at our own peril. > > > > *I want to make clear that with the exceptions of Qanon

Re: Fw: Has the right gone full Alt_?

2020-12-06 Thread Kurtz, Steven
Hi Frédéric, I wish I had a simple answer to that very important question. The negatives are easy. No to censorship. I am not even sure that is possible if some business or institution actually wanted to. Censorship, to the degree it's possible, only serves to reaffirm their positions. No to

Re: Fw: Has the right gone full Alt_?

2020-12-06 Thread Ryan Griffis
t; of millions, and we ignore it at our own peril. > > *I want to make clear that with the exceptions of Qanon and anti-vax I am not > indicting every person who participates in these various groups?only a > variable subsection is a part of the Gnostic front. Membership tends t

Re: Fw: Has the right gone full Alt_?

2020-12-06 Thread Frédéric Neyrat
Dear Steven, Thanks for your analysis. I've a question about one sentence: "...if it is not accompanied by a massive intervention campaigns into the Gnostic networks of alternative reality": How, according to you, might we do that? - Do you mean, like, forbidding a certain number of

Re: Fw: Has the right gone full Alt_?

2020-12-06 Thread Kurtz, Steven
Hey Brian, welcome to the wilderness my friend. I have been yelling about this for many years, but basically talking to myself. All the knowledge in the world about surveillance capitalism, postfordism, and neoliberalism doesn’t help much (a little with concepts of alienation and its other