Re: Complexity and nostalgia

2018-11-05 Thread frank . 20 . tigrero
lder To: nettim...@kein.org Subject: Complexity and nostalgia Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 15:10:31 +0100 I cannot believe we are still debating "class vs. identity". If you look at the current wave of far-right strong mean, it's seems obvious their project is the restoration of race AND class priv

Re: Complexity and nostalgia

2018-11-04 Thread Hoofd, I.M. (Ingrid)
. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Nina Temporär" To: "nettime-l@mail.kein.org" Subject: Complexity and nostalgia Date: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 00:36 Wow, nettime’s very own James Damore moment - And hardly anyone calls him out. I cannot believe how easily

Re: Complexity and nostalgia

2018-11-03 Thread Nina Temporär
Wow, nettime’s very own James Damore moment - And hardly anyone calls him out. I cannot believe how easily so many people here allowed A.B. to intellectually-click-bait them into a discussion just because he whispered the magic words „Marx“ and „class“, And willingly delivered him material

Re: Complexity and nostalgia

2018-11-03 Thread Brian Holmes
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 7:11 AM Felix Stalder wrote: > Our task, in my view, is to develop new languages, and new > esthetics, to account for, and deal with, the sharply increased > complexity. That means, that there is no single privileged point-of-view > or layer of analysis. If there is any

Re: Complexity and nostalgia

2018-11-03 Thread Alice Yang
I cannot believe (but can believe) that the discussion has become a typical one of ~Millennials and Gen Z need to grow up already!~ Alexander, your claim that the class oppressed need to study white male academics whose works are only kept in circulation by an echo chamber of elitism such as

Complexity and nostalgia

2018-11-03 Thread Felix Stalder
I cannot believe we are still debating "class vs. identity". If you look at the current wave of far-right strong mean, it's seems obvious their project is the restoration of race AND class privilege AND patriarchy. Behind this, in my view, is a jump in social complexity (globalization, Internet,