Re: The Cryptopticon

2019-01-08 Thread Patrice Riemens
m to engender > jealousy. -- http://felix.openflows.com |Open PGP http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=0x0bbb5b950c9ff2ac I suspect a misunderstanding. Vaidhyanathan is playing with _cryptic_, as in obscure, not cryptography: "Unlike Bentham's Panopticon, the Cryptopticon is not su

Re: The Cryptopticon

2019-01-07 Thread jeremy bentham
gender > > jealousy. > -- > http://felix.openflows.com > |Open PGP http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=0x0bbb5b950c9ff2ac I suspect a misunderstanding. Vaidhyanathan is playing with _cryptic_, as in obscure, not cryptography: "Unlike Bentham'

Re: The Cryptopticon

2019-01-07 Thread Morlock Elloi
A technical note: the actual SIM card, while helpful, is not essential for tracking. What is far more useful and harder to circumvent are identifier associations and turning patterns into identifiers: 1. If you ever use a particular cell phone (IMEI), a browser with high entropy fingerprint, a

Re: The Cryptopticon

2019-01-07 Thread Adam Burns
Absolutely agree with the thread sentiments of driving people underground and into disadvantage. However, situations like this demand effort to circumvent and encourage the exploration of methods allowing the routing around of such censor blocks. For instance in Germany, VoIP gateways (eg sipgate

Re: The Cryptopticon

2019-01-07 Thread Emery Hemingway
It swings both ways, stricter registration requirements eventually pushes more people underground. For example, immigrants in Germany with temporary visas (fiktionsbescheinigungen) cannot buy SIM cards, but they can hardly complete the administrative process without one. E. On Monday, January 7,

Re: The Cryptopticon

2019-01-07 Thread Felix Stalder
In 2014, a protestor at an anti-fascist rally in Vienna was sentenced to 12 months of jail, for alleged participation in violent action. Among the evidence that was held against him was using an non-registered prepaid card. Even though that was entirely legal at the time, it was held against him a

Re: The Cryptopticon

2019-01-07 Thread Patrice Riemens
Aloha, Agreing with Morlock, but it's in fact even worse than. Before using crypto, you're already into using a lot of devices, and non-possession of these, e.g. smartphones, not only makes you suspect, it increasingly makes your life impossible. Same with banking without a debit/credit card

Re: The Cryptopticon

2019-01-06 Thread Morlock Elloi
There isn't much there, other than expanding on the nature of the invisible threat with long term consequences, which is usually dealt with by the organized government (smoking, pesticides, etc.), except that in this case the government is the cause of the threat, so it won't touch it, and ther

The Cryptopticon

2019-01-06 Thread jeremy bentham
Why haven't this list's mavens de-, re-, pre- and otherwise- constructed Siva Vaidhyanathan's Cryptopticon? If for no other reason than it is such a lovely neologism? -- Dave Williamsd...@eskimo.com # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list f