RE: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-09 Thread Pascal Vree
so. greets Pascal -Original Message- From: Dan Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 3/8/2007 9:48 PM To: yelo_3 Cc: network manager Subject:Re: applet and wireless scan On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 19:40 +, yelo_3 wrote: That's almost certainly a driver issue

RE: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-09 Thread Dan Williams
Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 3/8/2007 9:48 PM To: yelo_3 Cc: network manager Subject:Re: applet and wireless scan On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 19:40 +, yelo_3 wrote: That's almost certainly a driver issue. If the driver is saying that quality of the AP

RE: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-09 Thread Jon Nettleton
: applet and wireless scan On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 19:40 +, yelo_3 wrote: That's almost certainly a driver issue. If the driver is saying that quality of the AP is 30%, but you cannot connect, then the driver is wrong. The driver should be factoring all necessary information

RE: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-09 Thread Dan Williams
-Original Message- From: Dan Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 3/8/2007 9:48 PM To: yelo_3 Cc: network manager Subject:Re: applet and wireless scan On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 19:40 +, yelo_3 wrote: That's almost certainly a driver

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-08 Thread yelo_3
We can possibly tweak this, since drivers are better these days than they used to be. The 6 minute interval was chosen a fairly long time ago. Great! Scanned signal strength reported from drivers is still not reliable, but is getting a lot better. NM cannot rely on signal strength for

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-08 Thread yelo_3
quality is a subjective value that usually includes things like TX retries, decryption errors, and other connection information in addition to signal strength. You can have a fairly high signal-to-noise ratio but still have an overloaded radio channel with lots of collisions, which means

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-08 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 15:17 +, yelo_3 wrote: quality is a subjective value that usually includes things like TX retries, decryption errors, and other connection information in addition to signal strength. You can have a fairly high signal-to-noise ratio but still have an overloaded

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-08 Thread yelo_3
That's almost certainly a driver issue. If the driver is saying that quality of the AP is 30%, but you cannot connect, then the driver is wrong. The driver should be factoring all necessary information into the quality measurement. I will post a bug to ipw2200 tracer, thank you for the

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-08 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 19:40 +, yelo_3 wrote: That's almost certainly a driver issue. If the driver is saying that quality of the AP is 30%, but you cannot connect, then the driver is wrong. The driver should be factoring all necessary information into the quality measurement. I

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-08 Thread yelo_3
understood. how much time should pass between the two clicks to be considered not a dos? I truely cannot realize if the scan is done only the first time of a series of clicks or the scan-when-click feature has been disabled because of this reason

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-07 Thread yelo_3
Are you sure?? iwlist eth1 scan gives always more updated results than the applet. I started NetworkManager --no-daemon to see the logfile but it does not say anything when I click on the icon... but maybe it is normal.. I didn't find any option to have mode debugging info --- Darren Albers

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-07 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 09:25 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: On 3/6/07, Darren Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/6/07, yelo_3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that nm-applet shows the result of scans every 2 minutes. I think that this was discussed lots of times. I just wanted to ask a

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-07 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 10:15 +0100, yelo_3 wrote: Are you sure?? iwlist eth1 scan gives always more updated results than the applet. I started NetworkManager --no-daemon to see the logfile but it does not say anything when I click on the icon... but maybe it is normal.. I didn't find any

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-07 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 20:25 +0100, yelo_3 wrote: you told me that I should wait 10 seconds before having an updated list. for me it is a great thing! is the list updated even if it is open or should I close and reopen it? is this feature in 0.7 or already in 0.6.x? NM scans every 20 seconds,

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-07 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 22:01 +0100, yelo_3 wrote: Thank you Dan for your information!! I will do some tries and let you know if there are problems with the refresh of the list. I was complaining about the presence of ghost APs because a user thinks that he can connect to it even if he is

applet and wireless scan

2007-03-06 Thread yelo_3
I know that nm-applet shows the result of scans every 2 minutes. I think that this was discussed lots of times. I just wanted to ask a question. why it is not acceptable to do scans also every time I left-click on the applet, to show updated results? Or at least add a refresh list button... this

Re: applet and wireless scan

2007-03-06 Thread Darren Albers
On 3/6/07, yelo_3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that nm-applet shows the result of scans every 2 minutes. I think that this was discussed lots of times. I just wanted to ask a question. why it is not acceptable to do scans also every time I left-click on the applet, to show updated results?