Re: debug tips

2009-06-04 Thread Simon Geard
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 15:42 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Well you are essentially correct . startx starts a normal r5 session but > runlevel claims that the system is still at rl3. Which seems strange to > me. I think you're misunderstanding what runlevels are - the fact is, they're nothing more

Re: debug tips

2009-06-04 Thread Marc Herbert
Aaron Konstam a écrit : > > startx starts a normal r5 session but > runlevel claims that the system is still at rl3. Which seems strange to > me. startx knows nothing about runlevels, it could not care less, that is why the system _is_ still at runlevel 3. Changing the runlevel starts and stops

[Fwd: Re: debug tips]-correction

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Konstam
Forwarded Message From: Aaron Konstam To: Dan Williams Cc: Marc Herbert , networkmanager-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: debug tips Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:42:53 -0500 On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:49 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 08:40 -0500, Aaron Konstam wr

Re: debug tips

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:49 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 08:40 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 08:21 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:55 +0100, Marc Herbert wrote: > > > > Aaron Konstam a écrit : > > > > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 0

Re: debug tips

2009-06-03 Thread Marc Herbert
Aaron Konstam a écrit : >> Huh? startx is changing the runlevel? That is some news. > This is a semantic argument. rl3 does not support X, rl5 does. OK. > I have never actually checked this but I would be amazed if when one > runs startx the system does not switch to rl5. Then be amazed? I h

Re: debug tips

2009-06-03 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 08:40 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 08:21 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:55 +0100, Marc Herbert wrote: > > > Aaron Konstam a écrit : > > > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 08:53 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > > > > > > >> As I've said

Re: debug tips

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 08:21 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:55 +0100, Marc Herbert wrote: > > Aaron Konstam a écrit : > > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 08:53 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > > > > >> As I've said, but let me repeat it again, I do boot into run level 3. > > >> Aft

Re: debug tips

2009-06-03 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 14:39 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > > I had a buggy wifi driver and rmmod and ismod on the wifi drivers would > > always fix my issue. > > Thanks a lot, this sounds like potentially fitting my case. One thing you can also try to help isolate the problem is: killall -TER

Re: debug tips

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:55 +0100, Marc Herbert wrote: > Aaron Konstam a écrit : > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 08:53 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > > >> As I've said, but let me repeat it again, I do boot into run level 3. > >> After logging in I start X manually via startx. > > >>> We are having

Re: debug tips

2009-06-03 Thread Marc Herbert
Aaron Konstam a écrit : > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 08:53 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >> As I've said, but let me repeat it again, I do boot into run level 3. >> After logging in I start X manually via startx. >>> We are having a giant miscommunication going on . What rl are you actually >>> run

Re: debug tips

2009-06-01 Thread John Mahoney
ismod, I meant insmod or you can use modprobe, obviously. -- John On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > > I had a buggy wifi driver and rmmod and ismod on the wifi drivers would > > always fix my issue. > > Thanks a lot, this sounds like potentially fitting my case. > > Chee

Re: debug tips

2009-06-01 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
> I had a buggy wifi driver and rmmod and ismod on the wifi drivers would > always fix my issue. Thanks a lot, this sounds like potentially fitting my case. Cheers, Daniel -- Psss, psss, put it down! - http://www.cafepress.com/putitdown ___ NetworkMan

Re: debug tips

2009-06-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 08:53 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > >> >> I'm trying to debug a 100% reproducable issue but don't really know > >> >> where to look for clues. > >> >> > >> >> I have a Sony VAIO VGN-FZ240E, running 64bit Fedora 8. > >> >> > >> >> It happens with many wifi networks that whe

Re: debug tips

2009-06-01 Thread John Mahoney
I had a buggy wifi driver and rmmod and ismod on the wifi drivers would always fix my issue. -- John On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Daniel Fetchinson < fetchin...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> I'm trying to debug a 100% reproducable issue but don't really know > >> >> where to look for clues.

Re: debug tips

2009-06-01 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
>> >> I'm trying to debug a 100% reproducable issue but don't really know >> >> where to look for clues. >> >> >> >> I have a Sony VAIO VGN-FZ240E, running 64bit Fedora 8. >> >> >> >> It happens with many wifi networks that when I boot everything goes >> >> fine, I can connect to the wifi network w

Re: debug tips

2009-06-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 09:21 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > >> I'm trying to debug a 100% reproducable issue but don't really know > >> where to look for clues. > >> > >> I have a Sony VAIO VGN-FZ240E, running 64bit Fedora 8. > >> > >> It happens with many wifi networks that when I boot everythin

Re: debug tips

2009-05-31 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
>> I'm trying to debug a 100% reproducable issue but don't really know >> where to look for clues. >> >> I have a Sony VAIO VGN-FZ240E, running 64bit Fedora 8. >> >> It happens with many wifi networks that when I boot everything goes >> fine, I can connect to the wifi network with nm-applet but as

Re: debug tips

2009-05-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 10:49 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm trying to debug a 100% reproducable issue but don't really know > where to look for clues. > > I have a Sony VAIO VGN-FZ240E, running 64bit Fedora 8. > > It happens with many wifi networks that when I boot everything

debug tips

2009-05-30 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
Hi folks, I'm trying to debug a 100% reproducable issue but don't really know where to look for clues. I have a Sony VAIO VGN-FZ240E, running 64bit Fedora 8. It happens with many wifi networks that when I boot everything goes fine, I can connect to the wifi network with nm-applet but as soon as