Re[4]: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-23 Thread rikona
Hello Richard, Monday, September 22, 2003, 12:11:17 AM, you wrote: RU> On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 9:46 pm, rikona wrote: >> Sunday, September 21, 2003, 9:02:46 AM, Bryan wrote: >>> With China on the horizon to soon adopt Linux, I expect to see >>> major market splits very soon. >> >> China may save u

Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-22 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 9:46 pm, rikona wrote: > Sunday, September 21, 2003, 9:02:46 AM, Bryan wrote: >> With China on the horizon to soon adopt Linux, I expect to see >> major market splits very soon. > > China may save us after all, since they will be making everything. > :-) So we're depending o

Re[2]: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-21 Thread rikona
Hello Bryan, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 9:02:46 AM, you wrote: BP> it will be on/off enabled, Only if this is forced by us. This is not the desires of those pushing the idea. BP> The result will be that people will still buy the same computers BP> but you will have two choices, either you run

Re: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 21 September 2003 05:45 am, Richard Urwin wrote: > On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:04 am, Thomas Williams wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 > > > > HaywireMac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "... > > > First of all, the companies that constitute the Trusted Computing > > > Group incl

Re: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-21 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 06:19:55 -0400 HaywireMac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:45:29 +0100 > Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > Even more worrying is that it would effectively outlaw Linux. > > Exactement, and in doing so, would drive us underground, > fulfilling

Re: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-21 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 05:47, HaywireMac wrote: > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:04:11 -0400 > Thomas Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get > > implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border > > to get their computer

Re: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-21 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 05:47, HaywireMac wrote: > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:04:11 -0400 > Thomas Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get > > implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border > > to get their computer

Re: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:45:29 +0100 Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Even more worrying is that it would effectively outlaw Linux. Exactement, and in doing so, would drive us underground, fulfilling the principle I noted, and effectively disarm the powers-that-be utterly. Look what th

Re: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:04:11 -0400 Thomas Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get > implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border > to get their computers and/or only run Linux on it. The SNAFU Principle: SNAF

Re: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-21 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:04 am, Thomas Williams wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 > HaywireMac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "... > > First of all, the companies that constitute the Trusted Computing > > Group include many of the heavyweights of the personal computer > > industry -- Micro

Re: [newbie] Great Article on "Trusted Computing"

2003-09-21 Thread Thomas Williams
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 HaywireMac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "What's the reality? What, if anything, do those of us who support > computer/Internet privacy have to fear from the group and Trusted > Computing Platforms? > > Plenty. > > First of all, the companies that constitute the