Re[4]: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-23 Thread rikona
Hello Richard, Monday, September 22, 2003, 12:11:17 AM, you wrote: RU On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 9:46 pm, rikona wrote: Sunday, September 21, 2003, 9:02:46 AM, Bryan wrote: With China on the horizon to soon adopt Linux, I expect to see major market splits very soon. China may save us after all,

Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-22 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 9:46 pm, rikona wrote: Sunday, September 21, 2003, 9:02:46 AM, Bryan wrote: With China on the horizon to soon adopt Linux, I expect to see major market splits very soon. China may save us after all, since they will be making everything. :-) So we're depending on China

Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-21 Thread Thomas Williams
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the reality? What, if anything, do those of us who support computer/Internet privacy have to fear from the group and Trusted Computing Platforms? Plenty. First of all, the companies that constitute the Trusted

Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-21 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:04 am, Thomas Williams wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... First of all, the companies that constitute the Trusted Computing Group include many of the heavyweights of the personal computer industry -- Microsoft, IBM,

Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:04:11 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or only run Linux on it. grin The SNAFU Principle:

Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:45:29 +0100 Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Even more worrying is that it would effectively outlaw Linux. Exactement, and in doing so, would drive us underground, fulfilling the principle I noted, and effectively disarm the powers-that-be utterly. Look what the

Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-21 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 05:47, HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:04:11 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or

Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-21 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 05:47, HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:04:11 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or

Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-21 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 06:19:55 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:45:29 +0100 Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Even more worrying is that it would effectively outlaw Linux. Exactement, and in doing so, would drive us underground, fulfilling the

Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 21 September 2003 05:45 am, Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:04 am, Thomas Williams wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... First of all, the companies that constitute the Trusted Computing Group include many of the

Re[2]: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing

2003-09-21 Thread rikona
Hello Bryan, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 9:02:46 AM, you wrote: BP it will be on/off enabled, Only if this is forced by us. This is not the desires of those pushing the idea. BP The result will be that people will still buy the same computers BP but you will have two choices, either you run