Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Kurt Nolte
James: For some strange reason, I now have this mental image of some guy trying to sneak a jump off an idling city bus... :D -Kurt On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:42 PM, James O'Gorman wrote: > I'm totally doing this next time I'm dead with only a 24v power source... > :) > > > -- You received

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread James O'Gorman
I'm totally doing this next time I'm dead with only a 24v power source... :) On Nov 16, 2011, at 19:55 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote: > I haven't jumped a bike with 24v (yet), but I did jump a car that way. I just > unhooked the feed wire from the starter then clamped directly to the stud and > the engi

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Kurt Nolte
I haven't jumped a bike with 24v (yet), but I did jump a car that way. I just unhooked the feed wire from the starter then clamped directly to the stud and the engine ground strap, then used the car's 12v to trigger the solenoid as normal. Only had a 24v system to jump from, no roll starting abilit

[Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Honda Magna 750

2011-11-16 Thread The Bake
1st off, thanks to all who wrote me on my last post. The Nighthawk 750, or the guy who's selling it never called me back. So, I'll take a look at the V45. It has 44,585 miles on it. The valves have been adjusted and the tensioners verified. Carbs have been completely rebuilt with new rubber intakes

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: handguards for 1997 cb750

2011-11-16 Thread Hawaii Sean
Melissa, Check out the post titles: "Our First Ride". Graham I think put polisport hand protectors on his bike. That post includes pictures so you'll know what they actually do. You might also think about getting a faring that has had coverage. I know SlipStreamer makes one that others in the

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Allen Thomas
How could you ONLY give the starter 24 volts? You would have to jumper it separately from the rest of the wiring harness. I can't see why anyone would want to do that anyway. If your starter is so shot that a 12V system can't spin it then you just need to rebuild the thing. Or get proficient at

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Scott McKinley
I jumped a battery in the '70's on a direct connect. It did blow up and scattered fragments all over the pickup's engine compartment and sprayed an observer with acid on his face. The battery was completely dead before we started. Lesson learned, but I still go direct with both leads. It was the

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Kurt Nolte
You know, you're probably right about that being the original and primary reasoning. I forgot about battery gases entirely, having grown up in an age where sealed and low-gas batteries are so common that battery explosions are almost unheard of. Kurt On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Hanghank wro

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Graham Rogers
thanks Kurt, I didn't know that, Graham On Nov 16, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote: Most alternators function a bit like "bottomless batteries" in that they provide a voltage, and whatever current the circuit needs at that voltage it supplies up to the limitations of the coils. A depl

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Hanghank
I believe the reason for the suggestion to hook the positive/+ charging cable to the battery, but the negative/- cable to a remote ground is to move the location of the last connection, and the possible spark that may occur, away from the battery, so that battery gasses, which may be present, a

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Kurt Nolte
Most alternators function a bit like "bottomless batteries" in that they provide a voltage, and whatever current the circuit needs at that voltage it supplies up to the limitations of the coils. A depleted battery will draw a lot of current for the chemical reaction needed to provide separation of

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread Hawaii Sean
It always comes down to how the bike has been maintained through the years. I'd get the one with the lower miles regardless of price - assuming it has been well maintained. If the Nighthawk had the 70,000 and the Magna had 22,000 I'd get the Magna - assume you make it to 100,000 on both bikes you

[Nighthawk Lovers] handguards for 1997 cb750

2011-11-16 Thread Melissa Perkins
i'm thinking about getting handguards to use on my bike in the winter. anybody have brand/model recommendations? thanks, mel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1997 cb750 mirrors

2011-11-16 Thread Javier Garcia
Not really. I think I will go with the cheapest one. Javier. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Melissa Perkins wrote: > do you see any reason to pick one auction vs the other? > > On Nov 16, 2:03 pm, Javier Garcia wrote: > > Those should work fine, now just remember that orders shipped from Taiw

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread Ian Edward Baker
Oppp's spelling error, meant to say superb LOL, I can see where that could cause confusion On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:40 PM, surfswab wrote: > No reason the NH won't go 70,000 or better also, providing it has been > properly maintained and will continue to be. The motors have a rep > for being b

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1997 cb750 mirrors

2011-11-16 Thread Melissa Perkins
do you see any reason to pick one auction vs the other? On Nov 16, 2:03 pm, Javier Garcia wrote: > Those should work fine, now just remember that orders shipped from Taiwan > might take like 3 weeks to get to you, so I wouldn't buy from them if you > are in a hurry. > Javier. > > > > > > > > On W

[Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk Lovers] Really nice side covers 1991-2003 in eBay

2011-11-16 Thread My 750 Account
I'm currently working on making new side panel for my 83 cb750sc. Once I get them done over the weekend of thanksgiving I'll take pictures and I'd you want maybe we can work something out? Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Night

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1997 cb750 mirrors

2011-11-16 Thread Javier Garcia
Those should work fine, now just remember that orders shipped from Taiwan might take like 3 weeks to get to you, so I wouldn't buy from them if you are in a hurry. Javier. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Melissa Perkins wrote: > or these > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Everlast-Mirrors-91-03-Honda-

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1997 cb750 mirrors

2011-11-16 Thread Melissa Perkins
or these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Everlast-Mirrors-91-03-Honda-Nighthawk-CB750-CB-750-/320752747684?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4aae5a84a4#ht_1866wt_956 On Nov 16, 1:47 pm, Melissa Perkins wrote: > just did an ebay search. what about > these?http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Cus

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1997 cb750 mirrors

2011-11-16 Thread Melissa Perkins
just did an ebay search. what about these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Custom-CX650C-CB1000-C-Nighthawk-CB750-Mirrors-/110526856314?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19bbe9fc7a#ht_2865wt_956 On Nov 16, 12:48 pm, Hawaii Sean wrote: > I purchased the cheep ones on eBay and wasn't

[Nighthawk Lovers] Really nice side covers 1991-2003 in eBay

2011-11-16 Thread Hawaii Sean
If you need Red side covers check out Item number: 280771816291 on eBay. Really clean off of a 2003 bike. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.c

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1997 cb750 mirrors

2011-11-16 Thread Hawaii Sean
I purchased the cheep ones on eBay and wasn't happy. They vibrated so cars in the distance are blury and rusted in about a year - I live in Hawaii so only really good chrome doesn't rust - the OEM ones didn't rust Sean On Nov 15, 5:38 pm, Graham Rogers wrote: > I found pretty close mirrors at J

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-11-16 Thread James O'Gorman
I would be interested to see the numbers once you have 8 tanks of premium. Could you post them when you have them? I've got the last 30,000 miles logged for my car and the biggest difference was driving style, not octane. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread Allen Thomas
We have a couple members with 100K miles on a Nighthawk so 24K is nothing. Also the early V4 engines were not that reliable. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Ian Edward Baker Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:55:24 To: Reply-To: nig

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread Kyle Munz
Which model NH? The V45 is a nice motor, found in the Magna and the sabre and the interceptor I believe, not sure which of those were available in 83, but that is a lot of miles for one and the rumor is that V45 parts are getting harder to find than CB parts. -Kyle On Nov 16, 2011 11:53 AM, "The

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Now a Nighthawk owner!!!

2011-11-16 Thread Kyle Munz
Yes yes, must send pics. -Kyle On Nov 16, 2011 3:19 PM, "Javier Garcia" wrote: > Welcome to the group, although you haven't paid the toll, which requires > sending pictures of your new acquisition. > Javier. > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:38 PM, rickystrat...@comcast.net < > rickystrat...@comcast

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Now a Nighthawk owner!!!

2011-11-16 Thread Javier Garcia
Welcome to the group, although you haven't paid the toll, which requires sending pictures of your new acquisition. Javier. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:38 PM, rickystrat...@comcast.net < rickystrat...@comcast.net> wrote: > After years of dirtbiking, I recently bought my first streetbike! > Lucky for

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread surfswab
No reason the NH won't go 70,000 or better also, providing it has been properly maintained and will continue to be. The motors have a rep for being bulletproof. Curious about the "suburb" condition, though. Does that mean it has never been ridden in the city? :-) !! On Nov 16, 1:57 pm, Ian Ed

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread Ian Edward Baker
Thank you. I think I'll go for the NH, it's less money and close by. Maybe he will go down a bit but don't think as low as $800 On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:09 PM, marcel cerdan wrote: > Welcome... > > Got a V45 a few years back : loved the engine, but the frame is > flexing and in the end, you get

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread Ian Edward Baker
Thanks, I thought they would last longer than that. I had 70,000 on the Sporty and it was no problems. The older Goldwings ran forever. But like I said, I'm not familiar with these bikes On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Graham Rogers wrote: > I would offer $800 for the Nighthawk, if it is in sub

[Nighthawk Lovers] Now a Nighthawk owner!!!

2011-11-16 Thread rickystrat...@comcast.net
After years of dirtbiking, I recently bought my first streetbike! Lucky for me, that a friend talked me into buying a 1993 Nighthawk 750 I love this thing!!! It runs great and looks good! I still have some things I want to do to it, like touch up paint the engine and remove a little rust. But m

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread paul annen
thank you kurt, i was thinking exactly the same and with a running engine you are giong to have an alt spinning producing amps (and volts) and is set up on a voltage sensing circut... most modern cars use a 60 amp alt, but this alt is only putting out that much power when its sensing that the

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Graham Rogers
as long as the vehicle is not running Allen On Nov 16, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: So in layman terms jumping from a car battery won't hurt. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Kurt Nolte Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:50:54 -0500 To: ReplyTo: nigh

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-11-16 Thread Joey Kelley
The manual for my 1982 CB450SC says that a minimum of 91 Octane is required for proper operation of the bike. (I think it was 91 - might have been 90) -Joey On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:19 PM, marcel cerdan wrote: > So I have reviewed other posts on the board regarding Gas to use, and

[Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-11-16 Thread marcel cerdan
So I have reviewed other posts on the board regarding Gas to use, and benefits. Being a recent Nighthawk owner (85 650), I did the first 8 fills on regular, like my good old CX500c, and was getting 44-46 mpg... Then I read that some members have experienced drastic differences with good quality pr

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Allen Thomas
So in layman terms jumping from a car battery won't hurt. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Kurt Nolte Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:50:54 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Ni

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread marcel cerdan
Welcome... Got a V45 a few years back : loved the engine, but the frame is flexing and in the end, you get the same thing as a VMax : Great accelerations, but need to break hard before any curves, and entering too fast see you on the other side waving all over the place, when it is not horizontal.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread Curtis Park
Welcome, and yes lots of info here, i just kinda watch and see whats going on, I own an 83 Nighthawk 750, 12k miles on it, love it. Again welcome!! On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:50 AM, The Bake wrote: > Hello all. Just joined this group today. From Quebec, Canada. I'm > going to look at both of t

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread Graham Rogers
I would offer $800 for the Nighthawk, if it is in suburb condition with no engine noises and pass on the V45. 24000 miles is a lot on the older generation air cooled NH750 and a V45 with 72,000 miles or k's is on borrowed time. On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:50 AM, The Bake wrote: Hello all. J

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Graham Rogers
as long as you don't have the vehicle running On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Allen Thomas wrote: I would add that lead acid batteries are not really that sensitive to charge/discharge rates, they are the least sensitive to this when compared to other battery chemistries. And that if you left

[Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk 750 vs v45 Magna

2011-11-16 Thread The Bake
Hello all. Just joined this group today. From Quebec, Canada. I'm going to look at both of these bikes this week. Both are 1983 models and appear to be in suburb condition. Nighthawk for $1200 and V45 for $1800. The Nighthawk has 24,000, V45 has 72,000 not quite sure if it's in klik's or miles, mus

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Kurt Nolte
The problem with this is that a battery, any battery, is not a current source. It doesn't push current, it supplies voltage (potential difference): the circuit draws what current it needs and doesn't tap the rest. The amps, amp-hours and CCA of a battery are only limits on what the battery can sup

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Javier Garcia
So, we should be comparing 15 against 80 amps/hours... still, a pretty large difference. Javier. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Allen Thomas wrote: > ** > Sorry a quick check shows I was using different metrics. A NH battery is > rated at 210 cold cranking amps and 15 amp/hours. A car battery

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Allen Thomas
Sorry a quick check shows I was using different metrics. A NH battery is rated at 210 cold cranking amps and 15 amp/hours. A car battery can have over 1000(500-800 typical) cold cranking amps and usually no less than 80 amp/hour capacity more like 100-200. Truck batteries can be much higher espe

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Allen Thomas
if I'm remembering correctly MC batteries are in the 8 - 15 amp range. Car batteries can go up to over 1000 depending on size. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Javier Garcia Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:17:49 To: Reply-To: nigh

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Javier Garcia
I guess I should know this, but do you remember the actual numbers? at least roughly, how much more amps does a car battery has compared to a motorcycle one? Javier. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Allen Thomas wrote: > ** > I do too, but some people feel that since a car battery has a higher a

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Allen Thomas
I would add that lead acid batteries are not really that sensitive to charge/discharge rates, they are the least sensitive to this when compared to other battery chemistries. And that if you left a MC battery connected to a car battery for a long time it would most likely damage the MC battery.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Allen Thomas
I do too, but some people feel that since a car battery has a higher amp capacity, that it can damage the motorcycle by passing too much current, and thus over charging. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Javier Garcia Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: We

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread Javier Garcia
What is the problem jump starting from a car battery? I do that all the time. Javier. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:23 AM, marcel cerdan wrote: > Yes, don't do what I did and assume your battery is good if it shows > 12.6 v... I took appart the whole fuse box and checked all the > connections before

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

2011-11-16 Thread marcel cerdan
Yes, don't do what I did and assume your battery is good if it shows 12.6 v... I took appart the whole fuse box and checked all the connections before realizing that this !#'":@ battery was actually shot ! Did you try to push start to make sure it still runs ?! If you do that, is should turn the s