[nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread John Wallace
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Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread andrew mcelroy
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:35 PM, John Wallace wrote: > http://helpmysql.org/en/stats > Not to troll, but whats the point? If your that worried about the mainstream mysql fork, then use drizzle or some other already existing fork. Personally, I think this is a great time to learn postgres and the

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
Are you *that* worried that Oracle is going to buy MySQL? On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 13:35, John Wallace wrote: > http://helpmysql.org/en/stats -- " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocabl

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I'm sorry, replace buy with BURY. :) On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 13:54, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: > Are you *that* worried that Oracle is going to buy MySQL? > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 13:35, John Wallace wrote: >> http://helpmysql.org/en/stats -- " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The f

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread andrew mcelroy
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: > I'm sorry, replace buy with BURY. :) Let them try. There are already active forks of mysql. The one I mentioned earlier even has some of the founders of MySQL on it. What we should be getting a petition on is a garantee that Oracle isn

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
- "John Wallace" wrote: > http://helpmysql.org/en/stats Can we laugh it up some more that a site designed to make a petition for mysql has to run reports on timed intervals for performance issues? Guess it isn't so fast as you think it is. -- Steven Critchfield cri...@basesys.com -- You

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread andrew mcelroy
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: > - "John Wallace" wrote: >> http://helpmysql.org/en/stats > > Can we laugh it up some more that a site designed to make > a petition for mysql has to run reports on timed intervals > for performance issues? > > Guess it isn't so fa

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread Greg Donald
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: > Can we laugh it up some more that a site designed to make > a petition for mysql has to run reports on timed intervals > for performance issues? > > Guess it isn't so fast as you think it is. Pffft. Plenty of heavily loaded sites use

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread Greg Donald
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:32 PM, andrew mcelroy wrote: > I don't think the database is their problem :-) > > Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:31:32 GMT > Server: Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) > X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.9 > Expires: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:31:32 EET > Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, po

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-03 Thread andrew mcelroy
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Greg Donald wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:32 PM, andrew mcelroy wrote: >> I don't think the database is their problem :-) >> They have the sense to use gzip, but use no caching at all (php xcache nor page cache afaict), unless it's baked into their scripts. Al

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Chaney
This has hit /. and the mood there seems to be even more anti-Monty than I expected: http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/01/04/1548235/Monty-Wants-To-Save-MySQL?art_pos=3 Folks, if you're really worried about the future of MySQL, switch to PostgreSQL. Yes, you'll have to use proper SQL (oh,

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-04 Thread Howard White
Michael Chaney wrote: > This has hit /. and the mood there seems to be even more anti-Monty > than I expected: > > http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/01/04/1548235/Monty-Wants-To-Save-MySQL?art_pos=3 > > Folks, if you're really worried about the future of MySQL, switch to > PostgreSQL. Yes,

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Faulkner
MySQL has lost a lot of ground slowly over the last 10 years. I don't see how this is surprising. However, MySQL will probably be absorbed by Mark Cuban... :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-04 Thread Greg Donald
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Michael Chaney wrote: > Yes, you'll have to use proper SQL (oh, darn) Developers who still regularly write raw SQL are behind the times. At this point you should have adopted any one of the available Active Record design patterns to do it for you. -- Greg Dona

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-04 Thread Greg Donald
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Chris Faulkner wrote: > MySQL has lost a lot of ground slowly over the last 10 years. What do you have to back this statement up? Companies on the decline, especially ones on a 10 year decline like you say, don't get bought for billions of dollars. In addition, w

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-04 Thread Greg Donald
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:04 PM, andrew mcelroy wrote: > They have the sense to use gzip, > > If they had mysql properly tuned, minified their js, It's fairly pointless to minify JS when you're already using gzip compression. You're not gonna gain any additional compression. I mean think about i

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-04 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
- "Greg Donald" wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Michael Chaney > wrote: > > Yes, you'll have to use proper SQL (oh, darn) > > Developers who still regularly write raw SQL are behind the times. > At > this point you should have adopted any one of the available Active > Record des

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-04 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
- "Greg Donald" wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:04 PM, andrew mcelroy > wrote: > > They have the sense to use gzip, > > > > If they had mysql properly tuned, minified their js, > > It's fairly pointless to minify JS when you're already using gzip > compression. You're not gonna gain any

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-06 Thread Greg Donald
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: > umm, minify removes a lot of things from the compression stream. minify > on it's own is not the answer. But you would be surprised what a little > minify and one time gziping of a file will gain you. Not much more than letting Apach

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-06 Thread Greg Donald
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: > Now that depends. I would agree for first rev of a project. But when > you start to see bottlenecks, you can custom write the query for that > section. In a high load environment it is preferable to break the table into more tables wi

Re: [nlug] save mysql petition

2010-01-06 Thread andrew mcelroy
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Greg Donald wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Steven S. Critchfield > wrote: >> Now that depends. I would agree for first rev of a project. But when >> you start to see bottlenecks, you can custom write the query for that >> section. > > In a high load envi