Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-17 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
That is one thing I really like about the Dell T110. All standard parts. Non-parity RAM, standard SATA hard drives. Almost all of the used servers I have looked at use SCSI drives or SAS drives. Now I know SAS drives are not that expensive but at $120 for a 750 GB drive where SATA costs $70 for

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-18 Thread Daniel Owen
I'm not entirely sure if this is true across all ranges but early last year Dell started to "block" non Dell branded drives from being used in their PowerEdge line. I'm not sure if they backported this into firmware upgrades or it is just for new systems. This is really no different than what HP or

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Daniel Owen wrote: > I'm not entirely sure if this is true across all ranges but early last year > Dell started to "block" non Dell branded drives from being used in their > PowerEdge line. I'm not sure if they backported this into firmware upgrades > or it is jus

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Daniel Owen wrote: > >> I'm not entirely sure if this is true across all ranges but early last >> year Dell started to "block" non Dell branded drives from being used in >> their PowerEdge line. I'm not s

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Daniel Owen
Thanks for the followup on that. At the time I was buying Dell servers they all had PERC controllers so I either never realised there was this demarcation line or I forgot it because it was not relevant to me. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
To clarify, it is the PERC H700/800 line that does this... so even the entry level PERC controllers will still take any drive. Andy On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Daniel Owen wrote: > Thanks for the followup on that. At the time I was buying Dell servers they > all had PERC controllers so I e

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
Further research has shown that if you are buying a T110 with 4 Gb RAM and expanding to the 3 Year service agreement it is only $22 more for the same spec in a T310. The T310 has the following additional features: Available Redundant Power Supplies 6 DIMM sockets vs 4 DIMM sockets on the T110 4 G

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
A thought on the alternative options. Again a question of what you want to do with it. If you look at rackspace and pricing of a cloud computer, They have it down to $11 a month for the compute time and then add on your bandwidth. I priced it out for 512meg ram, 20gb drive, and 5gb each way and i

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I work for Amazon and you can get up on their free tier for a year. http://aws.amazon.com/free/ On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:08, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: > A thought on the alternative options. Again a question of what you want to do > with it. > > If you look at rackspace and pricing of a clo

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
Very tempting on both cloud fronts, especially the free one. I am investigating what additional storage costs are as I have quite a bit of data (~0.5 TB) on my server that I would have to move so paying for the storage as well as the data move, unless they don't count the initial load in your netw

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
BTW I'm a paying user of AWS as well, and the largest bill I've had is about 15 dollars for data transfer, the S3 and EC2 products have usually been < $5.00/month. It's pretty cheap, and, like I said, I liked the product even before I started to work here. :) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:47, Alex Sm

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
Amazon has the Elastic Block Store product, as well as the famous Simple Storage Service (Amazon S3). http://aws.amazon.com/ This site can answer all your questions. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:36, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > Very tempting on both cloud fronts, especially the free one.  I am > in

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Chris McQuistion
Alex, is there any way you could do a demonstration about Amazon EC2/S3 some day? (Sorry to thread-jack, but I find Amazon's hosting really interesting and I'd love to see someone really lay it all out and show how it would work, from A-Z.) Chris On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Alex Smith (K

Re: [nlug] Re: Server Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I wish I could, but I'm in Washington DC now. I can point everyone in the direction of the Amazon Web Services page... http://aws.amazon.com/ I use their EC2 service to have a public facing Linux server, and run some Icecast relays on it. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:56, Chris McQuistion wrote: >