[Nmh-workers] Getting mhbuild to attach a directory

2003-11-14 Thread norm
I wonder if somebody could answer two questions for me. How can I attach a directory (preferably compressed) and, recursively, its contents to a message? How could I have answered this question for myself? Neither "man mhbuild" nor 'cat /etc/nmh/mhn.defaults' helped. I am using nmh-1.0.

Re: [Nmh-workers] Alas, No nmh in RedHat 4

2008-04-29 Thread norm
Josh Bressers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >The easiest way to get nmh running on RHEL4 is going to be this: > >Download this: >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/source/SRPMS/nmh-1.2-20070116cvs.4.fc9.src.rpm >(it's the Fedora 9 nmh source rpm) > >Run: >rpmbuild --rebui

Re: [Nmh-workers] [PATCH] scan message numbers from stdin

2008-08-18 Thread norm
Peter Maydell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >(Extra bonus UI question: if we make scan process messages in the order >stated rather than always sorted order, what should 'scan sequencename' >do if the sequence as defined in the .mh_sequences file isn't in order?) What about scan 1 1 2 2 which i

[Nmh-workers] Book with some MH History

2008-12-26 Thread norm
The book, "Rand and the Information Evolution A History in Essays and Vignettes" by Willis H Ware, Rand Corporation 2008, contains about 10 pages of MH history. Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org

Re: [Nmh-workers] Book with some MH History

2008-12-26 Thread norm
"Michael O'Dell" writes: > >does it also mention "ze Bland Editor" ?? Yes, it does took about Rand's role in the history of full screen editors. Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org

Re: [Nmh-workers] Book with some MH History

2009-03-22 Thread norm
Lyndon Nerenberg writes: >> The book, "Rand and the Information Evolution A History in Essays and >> Vignettes" by Willis H Ware, Rand Corporation 2008, contains about 10 pages >> of MH history. > >Sorry if this is a dupe, but I don't recall anyone mentioning that you can >download a PDF of this d

[Nmh-workers] nmh is Ncurses-based?

2010-01-22 Thread norm
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Mail/muas.html says that nmh is Ncurses-based. Is that true? If so,What does it mean? Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-wo

[Nmh-workers] Pick getting all addressees/senders

2010-11-13 Thread norm
I wonder if pick could have an option like: -addressee pattern which would select all messages with ANY addressees or sender including those with a to:, cc:, bcc:, -from:, -sender:, Resent-To:, Resent-cc:, Resent-bcc:, Resent-from:, and very likely a few others that I don't know about. Yes,

Re: [Nmh-workers] Pick getting all addressees/senders

2010-11-14 Thread norm
"Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)" writes: >> and I'm never sure I have them all. > >And there is the crux of the problem. A shipped version of pick never >could, either. MH is scriptable for a reason -- so that you can do >this for yourself, for whatever definition of 'recipient' applies at >th

Re: [Nmh-workers] Pick getting all addressees/senders

2010-11-15 Thread norm
Earl Hood writes: > >In a Perl program I have, I have the following hash defined >listing out the fields that can contain email addresses: >... > >Hope this helps, Yes, very much. Thank you. Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org

Re: [Nmh-workers] Understanding nmh (aka. What's the goal)

2010-12-02 Thread norm
"Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)" writes: >> It seems to me as if you would be doing compatibility for >> compatibility's sake. This is sticking to old cruft. Caring to much >> for some old userbase likely keep you from getting new users while old >> ones slowly vanish. > >Why do we need new user

Re: [Nmh-workers] Understanding nmh (aka. What's the goal)

2010-12-02 Thread norm
Joel Uckelman writes: >Thus spake Lyndon Nerenberg: >> >> I would be surprised (stunned, really) if anyone was still using MH >> *exclusively* as their MUA. > >Right here. Be surprised. Mee too. Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.

Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnowproc tab completion

2010-12-19 Thread norm
Ralph Corderoy writes: > >Hi, > >Jon Steinhart wrote: >> > I'm thinking about adding tab completion for file and directory >> > names for whatnowproc. Is that on anyone's to-do list?? >> > >> > steve >> >> Not on my list but it be great. > >I've no doubt some would find it useful and use it. But

Re: [Nmh-workers] A MH-inspired Maildir handler: coma

2011-02-14 Thread norm
Robert Elz writes: >Date:Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:34:21 +0100 >From:Christian Neukirchen >Message-ID: <87fwrr65de@gmail.com> Somebody should write a paper or something, containing the kinds of thing below, maybe with a title like "MH Three and a Half Decades On", a sort of succes

[Nmh-workers] Installing nmh on Mac X

2011-05-10 Thread norm
I want to install nmh on a a Mac X. Can somebody tell me where to get the necessary downloads and give me some advice about installation and setup . Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org ___

Re: [Nmh-workers] Installing nmh on Mac X

2011-05-21 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>I want to install nmh on a a Mac X. Can somebody tell me where to get the >>necessary downloads and give me some advice about installation and setup > >You should be able to download the latest sources from git and simply compile >things normally (I use nmh on a Mac nearly

[Nmh-workers] Need help getting nmh to send local mail

2011-06-01 Thread norm
I have never been able to install nmh so that it would send local mail. Thus when my draft has a simple local address, trying to send it gets an error message like: norm: loses; [USER] 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown post: 1 addressee undeliverable send: message not delivered to

[Nmh-workers] Installing nmh on RedHat 6

2011-11-30 Thread norm
Could somebody please tell me how I can install the current version of nmh on RedHat 6.1? Is there on rpm somewhere? Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nm

Re: [Nmh-workers] Installing nmh on RedHat 6

2011-11-30 Thread norm
Oliver Kiddle writes: >n...@dad.org wrote: >> Could somebody please tell me how I can install the current version of nmh on >> RedHat 6.1? Is there on rpm somewhere? > >What I usually do is try to find the .spec file from Fedora and build an >rpm using that. > >The Fedora files are here: >http://p

Re: [Nmh-workers] repl and mime handling

2012-01-18 Thread norm
Shouldn't you guys also be talking about pick in connection with messages containing Mime? Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https

Re: [Nmh-workers] repl and mime handling

2012-01-18 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>Shouldn't you guys also be talking about pick in connection with >>messages containing Mime? > >HOPEFULLY if I do things right, pick should Just Work. But doesn't the pick API need new primitives, such all messages containing a given mime type, all messages containing more

Re: [Nmh-workers] repl and mime handling

2012-01-18 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>But doesn't the pick API need new primitives, such all messages containing a >>given mime type, all messages containing more than n mime types, etc? Or do >>things like -search and --component somehow make those easy? > >Sigh. One thing at a time, okay? Yes, pick probably

[Nmh-workers] Bruce Borden

2012-01-18 Thread norm
This will introduce Bruce Borden who wrote the first version of MH in, I think, 1977. That's not a typo! Could have been 1978, but I don't think so. He has just subscribed to this list. Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org _

[Nmh-workers] Ancient Mistake: Sequences Should Have Been Called Sets

2012-01-30 Thread norm
The sequence '1 1' is the same as the sequence '1' The sequence '1 2' is the same as the sequence '2 1'. Thus sequences behave as what are normally called sets, not as what are normally called sequences. Of course, it is way, way too late to correct this three decade old mistake, a mistake for wh

[Nmh-workers] I don't know git

2012-02-04 Thread norm
Would somebody be willing to tell me how to download the 1.4 sources? Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/

[Nmh-workers] docs/COMPLETION-BASH.

2012-02-05 Thread norm
In the nmh-1.4 sources, there is a file, docs/COMPLETION-BASH. I assumed that it is a bash source file. But, from bash, source COMPLETION-BASH yields the error mesages: bash: COMPLETION-BASH: line 23: syntax error near unexpected token `(' bash: COMPLETION-BASH: line 23: `\++(

Re: [Nmh-workers] urls from mhpath, and message store abstraction layers.

2012-02-06 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>In the IMAP case, you don't want to download the entire message just to >>satisfy an mhpath request. The value in IMAP is its ability to treat >>MIME sections as separate objects. By sucking down entire messages, all >>you've done is downgrade IMAP to POP. > >I understand w

[Nmh-workers] nmh unix shells

2012-02-07 Thread norm
>ps... >If all you want from mh is "show/next/comp/repl/rmm" you might just as well >use thunderbird, or sylpheed, or even outlook express. Not even that's true. Such a user still has all the power of a Unix shell. For example, if she is using bash: % !scan or % show irs | egrep -i 'penalty|as

Re: [Nmh-workers] docs/COMPLETION-BASH.

2012-02-08 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> In the nmh-1.4 sources, there is a file, docs/COMPLETION-BASH. >> >> I assumed that it is a bash source file. But, from bash, >> >> source COMPLETION-BASH >> >> yields the error mesages: >>

[Nmh-workers] Request For New Feature: Unadorned Plus Sign

2012-02-09 Thread norm
David Levine writes: > > >I removed bash-completion (all of it, not just for nmh) from >my system (Fedora 16) because it disabled some completions >that I use frequently. I don't think it's very useful for >nmh, anyway, because nmh options can be abbreviated. It >should complete folder names, bu

[Nmh-workers] I need help configuring nmh 1.4

2012-02-17 Thread norm
Step 1. Vanilla installation . I built and installed nmh 1.4 accepting all defaults. nmh almost worked fine. In particular, mail addressed simply to "norm" got put in my local mail drop. BUT for a few addressees I got a rejection note such as the forwarded message below. Step 2. I c

Re: [Nmh-workers] I need help configuring nmh 1.4

2012-02-17 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >> norm: loses; [USER] 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown >> post: 1 addressee undeliverable send: message not delivered to anyone > >So, I'm wondering ... previous version of nmh worked fine, is that >right? I'm very sorry. I was unclear

[Nmh-workers] Multiple cc: headers

2012-02-17 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >As a side note ... Norm, when I try to reply to your message, I get >the following warning from repl: > >repl: bad addresses: >nmh-workers@nongnu.org n...@dad.org -- junk after local@domain (norm) >nmh-workers@nongnu.org n...@dad.org -- junk after

Re: [Nmh-workers] I need help configuring nmh 1.4

2012-02-17 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>Is there any way I could change it for a single message, short of >>modifying mts.conf -- maybe some kind of entry in .mh_profile or >>something? Note that messages for which I will want to this will have >>exactly one addressee, norm. > >Ah,

Re: [Nmh-workers] I need help configuring nmh 1.4

2012-02-17 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >As a side note ... Norm, when I try to reply to your message, I get >the following warning from repl: > >repl: bad addresses: >nmh-workers@nongnu.org n...@dad.org -- junk after local@domain (norm) >nmh-workers@nongnu.org n...@dad.org -- junk after

Re: [Nmh-workers] I need help configuring nmh 1.4

2012-02-18 Thread norm
t to this will have exactly one addressee, norm. > >You're trying to solve the problem in the wrong place. > >You need to configure nmh to submit mail locally using the 'sendmail' >transport. Then, configure your MTA to deliver bare addresses locally, and >rela

[Nmh-workers] Fcc: with no addressees

2012-02-18 Thread norm
I'm curious: why can't I 'send" a message no addressees but with an Fcc: ? Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.

[Nmh-workers] decades of future MH use

2012-03-13 Thread norm
Ralph Corderoy writes: >If introduced, .dcc:, etc., could also be added, allowing migration to >`deprecated' over the decades of future MH use. > Yes, decades, is the appropriate time scale for MH discussion! Something that is true of very few -- almost no -- current systems. Norman Shapir

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >There are a large number of changes in this release; the release notes >(see the NEWS file in the distribution) I got tired just reading the NEW FEATURES section. Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nong

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >Greetings all, > >I am pleased to announce the first release candidate (RC1) of nmh 1.5 is now >available. You can find it for download here: INSTLLL says: For routine installation on popular platforms, the shell script in docs/contrib/build_nmh can be used to guide y

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: > >I am pleased to announce the first release candidate (RC1) of nmh 1.5 is now >available. Are requests for new feature, sans code. in order yet? Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lis

[Nmh-workers] Feature Request: Comments in $HOME/.mh_profile

2012-04-24 Thread norm
I and at least one other user -- and probably many others, have .mh_profile entries that we added years ago, for reasons now obscure and not remembered. There ought to be an easy way to incorporate comments in that file. As I read the man page, there is none provided. Yes, I could use a bogus comp

[Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-04-24 Thread norm
Is there a way that scripts can use locking compatibly with the locking used by the local nmh installation. If not there should be. If so, is it documented, if not it should be. Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org

[Nmh-workers] Gripe About Pick Man Page and New Feature Request

2012-04-25 Thread norm
GRIPE: >From time immemorial, in the pick man page, the definitions of -after and -before have been at best ambiguous and at worst wrong. Here is my stab at a correct definition: The only messages considered will be those for which the relevant date field exists, has a valid format, an

Re: [Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-04-26 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >But I'm trying to understand ... what would you do from a script and/or from a terminal >that would require locking? They include adding to mail drops, moving files between and within folders and editing context files (mostly to rename or remove sequences). I don't know w

Re: [Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-04-27 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> They include adding to mail drops, moving files between and within >> folders and editing context files (mostly to rename or remove >> sequences). > >Though they can get clumsy, there are nmh programs to do each >of thos

Re: [Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-04-27 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>The basic philosophy and reason-for-existence of mh and of nmh is that that's >>not the way to go. I should be allowed -- nay encouraged -- to use file system >>tools to manipulate mh constructs. > >Okay, let me put in my $0.02: > >- I'm kinda with David Levine in that mani

Re: [Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-04-28 Thread norm
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu writes: >--==_Exmh_1335562212_1978P >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:48:19 -0700, n...@dad.org said: >> command is not executed until no other 'mhlock -all' is running, and >> until >> no relevant nmh program is running. While

Re: [Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-04-28 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>To make sure I understand this, I will discuss only the the -all case, which >>is >>all I asked for. (There would appear to be complex interactions between the >>other cases; it would hurt my brain to understand them.) > >The more I look at it ... it seems that -all won't

Re: [Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-04-28 Thread norm
n...@dad.org writes: >valdis.kletni...@vt.edu writes: >>--==_Exmh_1335562212_1978P >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >>On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:48:19 -0700, n...@dad.org said: >>> command is not executed until no other 'mhlock -all' is running, and >>> until >>> no relevant n

Re: [Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-05-01 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>Yes, I do. I it to lock EVERYTHING. Maybe you want to get fancy and give >>mhlock >>options for partial locking capabilities, but there ought to be a way to lock >>EVERYTHING. Indeed I would vote for EVERYTHING to be the default. I want to >>write scripts and be oblivious

Re: [Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-05-02 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>>But then you say (in another message) that you want nmh programs to not >>>deadlock under our hypothetical nmhlock program >> >>If I said something that amounted to that, it's not what I meant. I don't know >>what I might have said that led you to believe that's what I mea

[Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-23 Thread norm
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Re: [Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-23 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>After I sent the attached Email, last February, Ken Hornstein solved the >>dilemma it posed by telling me about the -server localhost option to send. >>Until a few weeks ago, everything was fine. Then I started getting the same: >> >>: host mail.eipye.com[64.14.74.17] s

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-24 Thread norm
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Re: [Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-24 Thread norm
alhost >MTA, instead of your ISP smarthost. > >I didn't remember the details of your original problem, so I looked it up >here: > >http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/nmh-workers/2012-02/msg00198.html > >The conclusion of that thread was that you would send "norm&quo

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-25 Thread norm
Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Norm, > >Your email to the list that I'm replying to: >> Received: from shell0.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.45]:59786) >> by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) >> id 1SXcPM-0004s6-6P >> for nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-25 Thread norm
Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Norm, > >> The Email you analyzied was not sent from the computer suffering the >> bouncing problem. >> >> But this Email will be so sent. > >Do you have trouble following the Received headers, bottom to top? :-) > >Received:

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-25 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> I don't know what a smarthost is. All I do. by way sending >> mail, is whatever the nmh defaults are, except that >> .mh_profile has the line: >> >>postproc: /usr/local/nmh/lib/post > >That's likely

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-25 Thread norm
Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi David, > >You wrote off-list in a plane: >> change your "servers: localhost" line in mts.conf to "servers: >> smtp.tsoft.net" (without quotes). If they require authentication, >> you'll find out whenyou try to send. &

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-25 Thread norm
quot;servers" to smtp.tsoft.com (You didn't need to do any >authentication, from what I remember). >- When you want to send email to yourself, you'll use "send -server localhost" > >AFACT, that setup should still do everything you want. Your other options

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help!

2012-05-26 Thread norm
"David Levine" writes: >Norm, change your "servers: localhost" line in mts.conf to "servers: >smtp.tsoft.net" (without quotes). I did that. It seems to have fixed the problem. Thank you all very much. Norman Shapiro

Re: [Nmh-workers] The third release candidate of nmh is now available

2012-06-03 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: all, > >I am pleased to announce that the third release candidate (RC3) of >nmh 1.5 is now available. You can find it for download here: Platform: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Version 2.6 64 bit AMD Opteron(TM) Processor 6272 Compiled with no problem. make check passed all t

Re: [Nmh-workers] The third release candidate of nmh is now available

2012-06-03 Thread norm
Correction: n...@dad.org writes: >Platform: > >Red Hat Enterprise Linux Version 2.6 That should Version 6.2 Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

[Nmh-workers] Naive Queston About nmh Man Pages

2012-06-03 Thread norm
Shouldn't etc have have a link, man -> share/man ? Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] The third release candidate of nmh is now available

2012-06-03 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >> >>The file, INSTALL, at the top level of the release says; >> >> ... The only directory that isn't true for is the `etc' directory -- in >> that directory, the previous copy of each will be backed up as >> .prev if it differs from thenewly-installed copy. ... >> >>

Re: [Nmh-workers] Naive Queston About nmh Man Pages

2012-06-04 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>Shouldn't etc have have a link, man -> share/man ? > >You mean, you want (default installation): > >/usr/local/nmh/etc/man -> ../share/man Don't know what I "want". That's why I didn't make a request, but asked a question. > >I'm not sure I see the need myself; care

Re: [Nmh-workers] Naive Queston About nmh Man Pages

2012-06-05 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: >> >> configure >> make >> make check >> make install >> >> Therefore, accepting all the defaults. >> >> Than I did 'man scan' and got 'No manual entry

Re: [Nmh-workers] Naive Queston About nmh Man Pages

2012-06-05 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: > >Keeping with historical practice, nmh uses /usr/local/nmh as the default >installation prefix (the default installation prefix for Autoconf is >just /usr/local). Everything gets installed underneath that using >default GNU pathnames, so (for example) man pages end up gett

[Nmh-workers] Exit status when argument is -version

2012-06-06 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >--- =_aa0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-ID: <68350.1338484958.2@zoolander.internal> > >(My apologies if you get multiple copies of this; I tried to be too >smart for my own good). > >Greetings all, > >I am pleased to announce that the thi

Re: [Nmh-workers] Naive Queston About nmh Man Pages

2012-06-07 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Ken wrote: > >> [Norm wrote:] >> >While you're on the subject, how do I get makewhatis to include >> >the hierarchy at /usr/local/nmh/share/man, without running >> >it myself every night via crontab? >> >> I don&#

[Nmh-workers] mhmail

2012-06-12 Thread norm
Maybe mhmail needs a '-server servername' option and perhaps some other send options as well. Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] mhmail

2012-06-13 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> Maybe mhmail needs a '-server servername' option and perhaps >> some other send options as well. > >Perhaps, though is that necessary? It seems that mhmail was >intended to be lean. The man page recommends using com

Re: [Nmh-workers] mhmail

2012-06-13 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> Suppose I want to do something like: >> >> mts=/usr/local/nmh/etc/mts.conf#depends on installation >> sed < $mts >| /tmp/mts.conf -e '/^servers:/s/:.*/: localhost/' >> MHMTSCONF=/tmp/mts.conf mhmail no

Re: [Nmh-workers] mhmail

2012-06-13 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Ken wrote: > >> I'm wondering ... do you really think these gyrations are appropriate >> for mhmail? >> >> Back in "the day", needing to change the server used by post and >> friends was very rare, so putting it all in mts.conf was reasonable. >> But now we have alternate por

Re: [Nmh-workers] mhmail

2012-06-14 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> It's not in the mhparam man page, In fact, >> share/doc/nmh/README.manpages and bin/mhparam are the only files >> anywhere in the nmh-1.5 hierarchy in which the string "etcdir" >> occurs. Also 'mhparam -al

Re: [Nmh-workers] mhmail

2012-06-14 Thread norm
ve both problems. > >Let me take a deeper look tonight and see what I come up >with. > > >Paul wrote: > >> i'll bet a patch to the man page would be welcomed! :-) > >Well put :-) So would contributions to the nmh test suite. >That's a great way to le

Re: [Nmh-workers] mhmail

2012-06-14 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>4. YES THERE IS!! mhmail is more properly thought of as draft composition >>utility, and not as a cheap version of send. > >I wouldn't claim to have greater knowledge of MH history than you, Norm ... >but are you sure about that? I did not i

Re: [Nmh-workers] new mhmail

2012-06-16 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >mhmail(1) has been replaced on master. > >SYNOPSIS >mhmail [addrs ...] [-body text] [-cc addrs ...] [-from addr] >[-subject subject] >[switches for post ... | [-profile [switches for send ...]] >[-version] [-help] [-debug] > >It has these differences from the old mhmail: >* I

Re: [Nmh-workers] new mhmail

2012-06-17 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: >... >>--foo bar (adds a component named "foo" with value, "bar". (This >> notation is analogous to one used in pick). > >OK, I'll look into this. I think that pick's --component is >the only double

Re: [Nmh-workers] mhmail is now stable

2012-06-22 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >mhmail now has -header-field and -attach options. I'm >done with it for the time being, assuming no bugs or >requests. > >SYNOPSIS >mhmail [addrs ...] [-attach file] [-body text] [-cc addrs ...] >[-from addr] [-header-field name:body] [-subject subject] >[switches for post .

Re: [Nmh-workers] mhmail is now stable

2012-06-22 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> David Levine writes: >> > >> >SYNOPSIS >> >mhmail [addrs ...] [-attach file] [-body text] [-cc addrs ...] >> >[-from addr] [-header-field name:body] [-subject subject] >> >[switches for post ...

Re: [Nmh-workers] mime-aware filtering?

2012-06-23 Thread norm
Paul Vixie writes: >... >i consider MH's basic mailbox format to be flawed in a MIME world for >which MH was never designed or redesigned. every attachment should be in >its own file, even if that meant that messages were directories no >longer files themselves. >... Historical note: In the earl

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help extracting mime parts from a message

2012-08-05 Thread norm
Jerrad Pierce writes: >You want mhstore, mentioned in the See Also of mhshow > >mhstore (1) - store contents of MIME messages into files That's EXACTLY what I need. Thank you very much. Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help extracting mime parts from a message

2012-08-05 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> When try to run mhshow on it, it produces nothing useful >> -- it doesn't even run unzip. I'm guessing that I ought to >> have a configuration file somewhere, maybe >> .../nmh/etc/mailcap, that tells nmh about zip

Re: [Nmh-workers] Help extracting mime parts from a message

2012-08-22 Thread norm
mhstore and mhlist have markedly improved the quality of my life. I had seen references to mhstore over the years. But the notion that it had to do with forwarding Email had somehow gotten into my head. So I never explored it further. Thank you all very much. Norman Shapiro

[Nmh-workers] Attaching graphics files

2012-09-08 Thread norm
I know how to attach a .tgz file. For example: #application/octet-stream; \ type=tar; x-conversion=gzip; \ name=SoundShot.tgz /home/norm/Downloads/SoundShot.tgz or a zip file. For example: #application/zip; name=,a.zip /home/norm/Downloads/,a.zip But how do I attach a .png file, for example

[Nmh-workers] The attach feature

2012-09-10 Thread norm
The attach feature is really great! Thank you very much!! I can't find any documentation for it, (./docs/README-ATTACHMENTS is for a much older nmh version, when the attach feature was not nearly as nice as it is now). As near as I can tell: If I give it an extension it doesn't recognize, it is

[Nmh-workers] mhstore overwriting files

2012-09-10 Thread norm
I wonder if mhstore could have an option to not overwrite any files? If the option were given, then trying to do so would be an error. Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-w

Re: [Nmh-workers] mhstore overwriting files

2012-09-11 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> I wonder if mhstore could have an option to not overwrite any files? >> If the option were given, then trying to do so would be an error. > >Ralph submitted a enhancement request for this almost >8 years ago: > >http://sava

Re: [Nmh-workers] The attach feature

2012-09-11 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >If you could let us know >where you looked, we could put some pointers in the man pages. I don't remember all the places I looked and things I tried, nor do I remember the order in which I did them. But here are some of the things I tried: man attach man -

[Nmh-workers] When send does not recognize a mime type

2012-09-11 Thread norm
Could send have an option that makes an unrecognized mime type an error? Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] When send does not recognize a mime type

2012-09-11 Thread norm
o: I intend to type cp secretName.jpg name.jpg But actually type cp secretName.jpg name.jqg Later I do ls ~/Graphs/name* to get /home/norm/Graphs/name.jqg which I pick up with my mouse to insert into the what now attach command. The file exists, so attac

Re: [Nmh-workers] The attach feature

2012-09-11 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>I don't remember all the places I looked and things I tried, nor do I >>remember the order in which I did them. But here are some of the things I >>tried: >> >> man attach >> man -k attach >> man whatnow (It told me the feature existed, but not much more) >

Re: [Nmh-workers] The attach feature

2012-09-11 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>Maybe there shouldn't be a separate attach man page, but that doesn't >>seem like a compelling reason, It just says that it shouldn't be in >>man/man1 but possibly man/man7, See man 7 intro. > >Okay, I could see that. Maybe we really need a man page which spells out >all o

Re: [Nmh-workers] The attach feature

2012-09-12 Thread norm
Jon Steinhart writes: >Attach was "implemented as part of whatnow" because that seemed to be the place >to put it for one who uses comp/repl/forw/etc. like I do and I implemented it. >It couldn't be done as a shell command combined with the above because that >would have meant you'd have to leave

[Nmh-workers] Attaching a directory

2012-09-12 Thread norm
I'm working on the attach, alist, detach, etc. write up. It seems that attaching a directory, attaches all the files at the top level of that directory. Correct? But if any of those files happen to be a directory, then it results in an under-the-hood "Nmh-Attachment:" header getting transmitted a

Re: [Nmh-workers] Attaching a directory

2012-09-12 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein writes: >>It seems that attaching a directory, attaches all the files at the top level >>of >>that directory. Correct? > >I didn't know about that, but cool. What, you didn't read the what now man page? >>But if any of those files happen to be a directory, then it results in an >>

Re: [Nmh-workers] The attach feature

2012-09-12 Thread norm
David Levine writes: >Norm wrote: > >> Of historical interest: >> >> Whatnow now has features not available to shell users. This represents, >> the perhaps inevitable, denouement of an argument I lost decades ago. I >> believed then, and believe now, th

[Nmh-workers] Requested send feature: Silently remove blank Nmh-Attachment headers

2012-09-13 Thread norm
It would be nice, if send would silently remove blank Nmh-Attachment headers. Then users could put them in their templates. At composition time, they could leave them blank, fill them in, or duplicate them for multiple attachments. That way, folks like me, wouldn't have to remember how to spell

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