Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-03-27 Thread David Levine
Ken wrote: That is basically the same thing as doing a rebase, except that way is more work. It would invalidate every checked-out copy of the revision control tree. It _might_ be useful, but would it be worth it? I think not, if there's not a reasonable way to deal with checked-out copies.

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-03-26 Thread David Levine
Bill wrote: David Levine levin...@acm.org writes: Ken wrote: I've seen a number of nmh man pages which say things like this: Consult the Advanced Features section of the nmh User's Manual for more information on making digests. Which leads to to ask ... which manual are they

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-03-26 Thread Ken Hornstein
Yes, it would be awesome to prepend git's history with the original RCS files. That could probably be done by exporting the git repository, started anew, importing the RCS files, and then importing the exported git repository. Thanks for the approach, it sounds doable but not by me at this

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-03-25 Thread Bill Wohler
David Levine levin...@acm.org writes: Ken wrote: I've seen a number of nmh man pages which say things like this: Consult the Advanced Features section of the nmh User's Manual for more information on making digests. Which leads to to ask ... which manual are they talking about, exactly?

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-03-25 Thread Bill Wohler
David Levine levin...@acm.org writes: I found a goldmine: the MH 6.8.5 tar ball contains RCS files for all of the source code. And it contains the sources for all of the documentation. I currently have it staged for addition at docs/historical/mh-6.8.5/ Before committing, is there a way

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-03-01 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Paul, and i'd also propose that we feel free to use groff extensions; nobody's going to build this on a DWB system again. Might be nice to stick within the large set of groff that's also Heirloom troff. Can't think of any obvious reason to step outside of that for simple documentation.

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-03-01 Thread David Levine
I've got nothing against bringing in the original troff input; it's just that what's in the MH 6.8 sources isn't exactly pure troff. It's got to be run through the build system to get rid of all the @BEGIN@/@END@ pairs (and I'm not even sure what definitions we should use to do

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread Tethys
David Levine writes: The old docs, ps converted to pdf, are now in docs/historical/ I notice we've also got plain text and PDF versions of Rose/Romine's How to process 200 messages a day and still get some real work done paper in there too. It might be worth grabbing the TeX source while it's

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:49:08 GMT, Tethys said: PS. That was the paper that introduced me to the world of MH, some time in the late '80s. At the time, 200 messages a day was an inconceivably huge number. At the peak of the spam problem a few years ago, I was getting over

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread Ken Hornstein
as Paul implied, troff input is perfectly usable, very much more so than MSWurd or the Prodigal Data Format I've got nothing against bringing in the original troff input; it's just that what's in the MH 6.8 sources isn't exactly pure troff. It's got to be run through the build system to get rid

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2012-02-29, at 11:26 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote: I've got nothing against bringing in the original troff input; it's just that what's in the MH 6.8 sources isn't exactly pure troff. It's got to be run through the build system to get rid of all the @BEGIN@/@END@ pairs (and I'm not even sure

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread Mike O'Dell
as Paul implied, troff input is perfectly usable, very much more so than MSWurd or the Prodigal Data Format -mo ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread Paul Vixie
On 2/29/2012 7:26 PM, Ken Hornstein wrote: It's got to be run through the build system to get rid of all the @BEGIN@/@END@ pairs (and I'm not even sure what definitions we should use to do that). Someone has to do that grunt work ... and I haven't heard anyone volunteer for that just yet. all

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread David Levine
I found a goldmine: the MH 6.8.5 tar ball contains RCS files for all of the source code. And it contains the sources for all of the documentation. I currently have it staged for addition at docs/historical/mh-6.8.5/ Before committing, is there a way to not include the contents of each file in

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread Ken Hornstein
I found a goldmine: the MH 6.8.5 tar ball contains RCS files for all of the source code. And it contains the sources for all of the documentation. I currently have it staged for addition at docs/historical/mh-6.8.5/ Before committing, is there a way to not include the contents of each file in

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread David Levine
Lyndon wrote: On 2012-02-29, at 11:26 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote: I've got nothing against bringing in the original troff input; it's just that what's in the MH 6.8 sources isn't exactly pure troff. It's got to be run through the build system to get rid of all the @BEGIN@/@END@ pairs (and

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:53:47PM -0500, Ken Hornstein wrote: Looks like the MH User's Manual. I found a copy here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/mail/mh/doc/MH.ps.gz Hm. Can people actually view this? I tried printing it out and it died with a PostScript error. I tried opening it on my Mac

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-29 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 06:50:13PM -0500, Ken Hornstein wrote: I found a goldmine: the MH 6.8.5 tar ball contains RCS files for all of the source code. And it contains the sources for all of the documentation. I currently have it staged for addition at docs/historical/mh-6.8.5/ Before

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-28 Thread David Levine
Ken wrote: I've seen a number of nmh man pages which say things like this: Consult the Advanced Features section of the nmh User's Manual for more information on making digests. Which leads to to ask ... which manual are they talking about, exactly? Looks like the MH User's Manual. I

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-28 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Is there a place to store them on Savannah? Or should I just throw them into the git repo? About 3.5 MB. Get them into docs/ subdir in the repo before they get lost. We can find a better home later if that makes sense. --lyndon ___ Nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-28 Thread Ken Hornstein
Looks like the MH User's Manual. I found a copy here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/mail/mh/doc/MH.ps.gz Hm. Can people actually view this? I tried printing it out and it died with a PostScript error. I tried opening it on my Mac and it could only view the first page; the subsequent pages were all

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-28 Thread Joel Uckelman
Thus spake Ken Hornstein: Looks like the MH User's Manual. I found a copy here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/mail/mh/doc/MH.ps.gz Hm. Can people actually view this? I tried printing it out and it died with a PostScript error. I tried opening it on my Mac and it could only view the first

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-28 Thread Ken Hornstein
I don't suppose anyone is around who still has the original source to this thing, do they? Following up myself ... I found it! It's in the original mh-6.8.4 source, under conf/doc! Yeah, we should totally get that in our git tree. It's going to take some love to extract it from the original

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-28 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
It's also probably going to take a troff guru to figure out how to make it usable. If you can get the source extracted I can take a run at cleaning up the troff. ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-28 Thread David Levine
The old docs, ps converted to pdf, are now in docs/historical/ David ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

[Nmh-workers] nmh User's Manual?

2012-02-27 Thread Ken Hornstein
I've seen a number of nmh man pages which say things like this: Consult the Advanced Features section of the nmh User's Manual for more information on making digests. Which leads to to ask ... which manual are they talking about, exactly? --Ken ___