RE: [NMusers] [Fwd: occasions during pregnancy]

2011-03-01 Thread Ken Kowalski
All, I feel the need to clarify my response as well. I agree that the systematic/mechanistic effects of pregnancy term on the PK should definitely be explored first (get the fixed effects right before postulating additional IOV random effects) and I leave that to the subject-matter experts. My r

RE: [NMusers] [Fwd: occasions during pregnancy]

2011-03-01 Thread Kevin Dykstra
All, It feels like there might be some clarification in order. What I was suggesting in the below was a plot of the individual random effect values vs. pregnancy term, in order to explore possible (non-random) covariate effects of pregnancy stage. I think this is consistent with what Nick, Stephen

RE: [NMusers] [Fwd: occasions during pregnancy]

2011-03-01 Thread Stephen Duffull
Paul As another "rule" protein binding decreases throughout pregnancy to a low at term due to dilution. This with a purported increase in CL makes for interesting modelling. I think as an initial approach a biologically plausible model is better than moving down the various variance routes.

Re: [NMusers] [Fwd: occasions during pregnancy]

2011-03-01 Thread Armel.Stockis
Paul Another suggestion As a general rule, drug clearance increases during pregnancy due to increased blood perfusion, especially during the last trimesters. You might also consider a time covariate effect over your clearance rather than on etas, with fewer parameters. Best wishes, Armel Armel

Re: [NMusers] [Fwd: occasions during pregnancy]

2011-03-01 Thread Nick Holford
Hi, Within subject variability has two parts -- a random component that is you have tried to describe using between occasion variability (AKA IOV) -- and a fixed (or predictable) component that in your case is associated with each stage of pregnancy. Your code only has the random component f

RE: [NMusers] [Fwd: occasions during pregnancy]

2011-03-01 Thread Kevin Dykstra
Paul, You might try plotting your etas 6-9 vs. trimester (coded at four levels) to ensure that the IOV is truly random by occasion, as your model assumes. Obviously, it is not unheard of that the IOV should be much larger than IIV, but I wouldn't start with that assumption. Usually there is at leas

RE: [NMusers] [Fwd: occasions during pregnancy]

2011-03-01 Thread Ken Kowalski
Hi Paul, When you treat each occasion as a different patient you get subject-by-occasion specific predictions of all the parameters in your model (or at least for those parameters in which you include an IIV eta)...not just clearance. Thus, it is not surprising that you might get a better fit by

[NMusers] [Fwd: occasions during pregnancy]

2011-03-01 Thread YUG10
Original Message Subject: occasions during pregnancy From:yu...@pitt.edu Date:Tue, March 1, 2011 10:49 am To: "nm nm" -- Hi all nmusers, I thank all who

[NMusers] Upcoming Phoenix WinNonlin etc. Training including NLME at PAGE 6-7 June

2011-03-01 Thread Simon Davis
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