I did play the NSPs with regulators and won in the other category, not trad.
NSPing.
Adrian
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Robbie Greensit, wasn't it?
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:07 PM, <[1]barr...@nspipes.co.uk> wrote:
Quoting [2]smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk:
Can anyone remember which famous smallpiper once fitted a regulator
to a set of smallpipes and reinvented the melodian (or at least the
Francis,
I think the tuning of modern UP is optimised when they're played closed.
If the chanter's played open, it drinks more air, and plays sharper.
Johnny Doran played off the knee a lot,
and when Willie Clancy 1st heard him, he thought he was out of tune -
a heresy which he repented in later
Quoting smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk:
Can anyone remember which famous smallpiper once fitted a regulator
to a set of smallpipes and reinvented the melodian (or at least the
sound of one)?
Yes, I can.
As I remember, to my ears it sounded rather like a harmonium.
Barry
To get on o
Can anyone remember which famous smallpiper once fitted a regulator to
a set of smallpipes and reinvented the melodian (or at least the sound
of one)?
BTW why is it called a regulator? when it doesn't regulate
Mike
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Point taken, Francis.
And Barry.
Thanks for both.
I was just using the harpsichord, (with or without over-excited
skeletons), vs piano, as an illustration to make my point about using
all the vocabulary an instrument can offer rather than cutting a bit
out because it's heretica
I do have a set of UPs (nasty cheap ones which I bought reasonably as
they had been over 5 years on the shop shelf and nobody knew anything
about them (yes, from Hobgoblin) - no regulators) but they still weigh a
ton.
The fingering chart I managed to find may give you an idea
http://www.howardm
On 17 Jun 2011, at 22:26, Francis Wood wrote:
> 'NSP's coming out of a pod".
Or rather, NSP's coming out of an iPod.
You hear it every day on the Metro, surely?
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> Positive remarks only, about it's neatness of execution.
When I said "it's", I hope it's obvious that its real meaning was its.
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On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:44, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
> The sound of skeletons copulating on a corrugated tin roof.
"Rattling the parrot's cage with a toasting fork" is another.
What a good thing nobody would ever say anything so cruel about our magnificent
instrument. Positive remarks only,
Love it -- copulating skeletons eh bien 'enri c'est formidable
Thanks for that Barry
cheers
Dave S
On 6/17/2011 10:44 PM, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
Quoting Francis Wood :
Ah. harpsichord duets. The sound of skeletons copulating on a
corrugated tin roof.
(Boult? Arnorld? cant rem
Quoting Francis Wood :
Hello Richard,
I think we pretty much agree.
Who, for example, would want to play Rothbury Hills in a staccato manner?
Detached playing is not necessarily staccato. When the notes are long,
the spaces seem even shorter.
(Who, indeed would want to play RH in any
On 17 Jun 2011, at 14:14, ch...@harris405.plus.com wrote:
> The Uilleann pipe chanter can be, and often is, played closed, by resting
> the chanter on the knee.
> It's possible, but more difficult, to get just as clean, detatched playing
> as with nsp.
>
> However this isn't seen as a fundamenta
Hello Richard,
I think we pretty much agree.
Who, for example, would want to play Rothbury Hills in a staccato manner?
(Who, indeed would want to play RH in any manner whatsoever, some might
interject.)
However it was composed by a significant piper who happened to be the official
piper to th
Kyle was on the list - he signed up a couple of years
ago. Now he is off. If anyone else wants to leave the
list send 'em to me.
Wayne
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I am afraid that it is a classic schoolboy error to reply on list to
an off list message. I have seen this a lot on other lists and it is
often a source of rancour. If you look at the heading of the
offending email it is clear that was sent only to inky
Mike
Quoting "Gibbons, John" :
I have received no emails via the list from Kyle Eckmann, who doesn't seem to
be on it.
Why would he ask you to be removed from a list which you don't administer?
I think you have been wound up
-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
I was responding to this post.
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Kyle Eckmann" <[1]eckmanncustomt...@hotmail.com>
Date: Jun 17, 2011 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: [NSP] Billy Pigg
To: <[2]inkyadr...@googlemail.com>
Hello everyone,
I've made several requests over the las
I think the objection to ornaments is just that they sound muddy, if done fast
and legato,
while anything more complex than a cut from below, {.F}.G or a mordent,
{.G.A}.G is ferociously tricky to play tight.
A cut from above will be out of tune, as well as muddy, if done legato.
There are qui
That's pretty much the way I was thinking. Of course, one also has to
investigate the origins of the NSP themselves and why the chanter was
stopped considering the vast number of bagpipes found around the world
with open ended chanters.
I do have a keyless chanter and I agree that the need for s
When I had a go on a replica (Dunn?) keyless chanter Francis has made for
Graham Wells,
I got the feeling that the staccato style was almost required of the player, by
the way the instrument responded.
If that was true of the early NSP in general, then the staccato style must
surely go back tha
> Since the NSP chanter has a stopped end, there would be little point in
> adopting anything other than this fingering style, which allows separate
> notes with (usually) a distinguishable silence between each. This is
> something that no other bagpipe can do. In fact it would be difficult to
> t
Adrian - if you wish to insult people, please do so offlist.
The rest of us (I hope I can safely generalise here) find it embarrassing.
Anyone who wishes to contact me, please do so offlist for a while.
Julia
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it's its. Define.
Get's me s'o cross.
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:31:57 +0200
> To: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu
> CC: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
> From: david...@pt.lu
> Subject: [NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions
>
> OK OK I see I just got Visa'd
>
> ciao
>
>
Hello Francis,
Quite so, but, playing devil's advocate for a minute, (and loving
tradition except where it becomes tribal), does the fact that we can
play staccato and 99% of other pipes can't, mean it's all we should do?
The harpsichord, after all, could only really play staccato or slightly
Sorry, Julia,
Sorry - I got in late yesterday, read a few, but hadn't seen that you'd
already done this one!
Richard.
"The oil of the little known Ont Rhubbledwarterz tree may be suggested.
Richard
By the way, does anyone have any good ideas about the right kind of oil
to us
Yes!
Richard
On 17/06/2011 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote:
Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes' made me laugh out loud
As for 'tradition', it is a neutral, value-free term, there are good
traditions and bad - human sacrifice was traditionally practised in
some cultures..
Yes!
Richard.
On 17/06/2011 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote:
Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes' made me laugh out loud
As for 'tradition', it is a neutral, value-free term, there are good
traditions and bad - human sacrifice was traditionally practised in
some cultures..
Has it occurred to anyone that once a tradition has started to get self
conscious about it's identity, it's got problems? A tradition that is
still fully living as a tradition, is just 'how things are', without
needing to ask itself what is traditional and what isn't. It even
decides what it do
On 17 Jun 2011, at 12:39, cwhill wrote:
> I'm thinking here of the closed fingering techniques, one finger off at a
> time, no choyting etc.
Hi Colin and others,
The closed-fingering technique derives much more from the nature of the
instrument rather than any opinions about style.
Since th
Ok, bad choice of composer!
He was, however, only deaf in later life.
Still good excuse for some bad jokes :)
It was a genuine question though. If there is a "correct" was to play,
that must have been decided at sometime by someone.
I'm thinking here of the closed fingering techniques, one finger
Is talking good sense traditional?
-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of
Matt Seattle
Sent: 17 June 2011 10:49
To: Dartmouth NPS
Subject: [NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions
Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes'
Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes' made me laugh out loud
As for 'tradition', it is a neutral, value-free term, there are good
traditions and bad - human sacrifice was traditionally practised in
some cultures..
As for 'can you play' - in one sense, of course Anthony can
On 17 Jun 2011, at 09:24, wrote:
> I reckon being dead is an even greater impediment to hearing them played now.
Well, if he hadn't been the late Beethoven, how could he have composed the Late
Quartets?
Francis
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OK OK I see I just got Visa'd
ciao
On 6/17/2011 10:17 AM, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote:
Bugger! Dartmouth doesn't like rich text. Here's a "proper" e-mail:
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From: BIRCH Christopher (DGT)
Sent: Friday, June 17, 20
>if he were to hear them played now.
>
>Well that's because he was deaf...
>
In that case he wouldn't hear them at all, but I reckon being dead is an even
greater impediment to hearing them played now.
He's been decomposing ever since according to a very old joke. Praps that could
e
On 17 Jun 2011, at 01:13, cwhill wrote:
> I've often heard it said that Beethoven wouldn't recognise his own works if
> he were to hear them played now.
Well that's because he was deaf...
Tim
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Bugger! Dartmouth doesn't like rich text. Here's a "proper" e-mail:
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From: BIRCH Christopher (DGT)
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:15 AM
To: 'Dave S'; Inky- Adrian
Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
RE: [NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions
Please define "can"
;-)
>This can of worms just
lost it's lid
>
>
>>
Anthony, can you play the
NSPs?
>> --
Plus ça reste la même chose
â¦..
CsÃrz
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Well said, Anthony! The fact that you can play should be obvious to anyone who
doesn't have their ego where their ears should be.
C
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>[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb
>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:00 AM
>To
>I'm risking a lot here I know but who actually decided how the pipes
>should be played?
Good question!
C
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"a couple
>of the best plpers are trying to make people understand how to
>play their instrument properly."
No prizes for identifying the following quote:
"She is a very good teacher, demanding accurate staccato playing."
C
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Hi Inky-Adrian,
This now brings us full circle -- doesn't it
Please define "Play" and "Play the NSPs"
This can of worms just lost it's lid
Viva la Vida
Dave S
On 6/17/2011 2:22 AM, Inky- Adrian wrote:
Anthony, can you play the NSPs?
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--- On Fri, 17/6/11, Inky- Adrian wrote:
Anthony, can you play the NSPs?
Hello Adrian
It all comes down to what is meant by 'play'.
Given the wonderful diversity of humanity there are some people who
will answer yes.
When I first moved north in 1977 and got 'in amang' what Wi
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