> The Germans do not like ligatures across compound words, and that is
> much harder to do in an automated way (not in fonts themselves at
> least).
That's a good point, but it's a slightly different issue from
prohibiting some ligatures altogether: in German ligatures should be
disabled dependi
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 01:28:20PM +0100, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> > thinking of it: one reason why a general purpose word processor used
> > by people with no idea about things like ligatures, is that
> > ligatures are language dependent
>
> I don't think that's necessary relevant: the only e
> Quite so. The words "I was wrong" seem to be a bit difficult for
> some people.
Yes, it's amazing how to some people "you're wrong" sounds like an
offence, and the explanation of why an outright insult.
Arthur
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> thinking of it: one reason why a general purpose word processor used
> by people with no idea about things like ligatures, is that
> ligatures are language dependent
I don't think that's necessary relevant: the only example I can think
of language-dependent ligatures is fi and ffi for Turkish
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 4/26/2013 11:48 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> PS: if you really hate the ligatures, you can try to help improve this
>> "interesting" package to handle ligatures (it probably has the most
>> potential in engines other than XeTeX/LuaTeX becau
On Apr 27, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Someone had to show me the first ligature years ago and when he did
>> that, I had to check every single book and document I had at hand to
>> check if ligatures were really commonly used. I simply couldn't
>> believe my eyes and the fact that i
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:16:42AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 4/26/2013 11:48 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> >I consider this (the fact that one doesn't notice it) part of a good
> >design. It's similar with kerning: one doesn't notice it until/unless
> >it's bad. It's similar in the kitchen als
On 4/26/2013 10:17 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
...It points out that Word
is the reason why some people consider ligatures unusual.
thinking of it: one reason why a general purpose word processor used by
people with no idea about things like ligatures, is that ligatures are
language depende
On 4/26/2013 11:48 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
to be honest I never noticed them when I was using LaTeX. It might have been
the fonts.
Someone had to show me the first ligature years ago and when he did
that, I had to check every single b
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
>
> to be honest I never noticed them when I was using LaTeX. It might have been
> the fonts.
Someone had to show me the first ligature years ago and when he did
that, I had to check every single book and document I had at hand to
check if l
On 04/26/2013 10:05 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
I never said that they do not have ligatures. I never said XeLaTeX does not have
the ability to use them I have read the fontspec manual!
You wrote:
On the other side, I believe, ligatures of off by default in LaTeX
which is wrong. That's not
Greetings, Keith, Thomas, and all,
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:43:59 -0600, Thomas A. Schmitz
wrote:
if you look at the books of decent publishers, you will see that most of
them still use ligatures (most American university presses, Oxford and
Cambridge, German publishers such as Reclam etc.
Am 26.04.2013 um 18:43 schrieb "Thomas A. Schmitz" :
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> if you look at the books of decent publishers, you will see that most of them
> still use ligatures (most American university presses, Oxford and Cambridge,
> German publishers such as Reclam etc.) However, many smaller pu
Hi Khaled,
to be honest I never noticed them when I was using LaTeX. It might have been
the fonts.
I can live with them being on as a default in ConTeXt and know now how to turn
them
off.
regards
Keith.
Am 26.04.2013 um 20:27 schrieb Khaled Hosny :
> I don’t know what LaTeX you were u
I don’t know what LaTeX you were using, but LaTeX does not and will not
disable ligatures by default (there isn’t even a way in original TeX to
disable ligatures globally, short of editing TFM files).
Regards,
Khaled
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 02:12:07PM +0200, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
> Hi Khaled,
>
On 04/26/2013 09:41 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
I use XeLaTeX and ConText for it control. I have not touched Word in decades,
if possible
or any other WYSIWYG- system!
That being said, take a look at the books printed in this day and age.
You will find that
the use ligat
On 4/26/2013 2:12 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
Hi Khaled,
When I used LaTeX last if I had fi in my text that is how it came out!
Using ConTeXt I noticed that fi becomes a ligature, did not like, but it
was not that important.
also keep in mind that ligatures are language dependent (if the font
Hi Khaled,
When I used LaTeX last if I had fi in my text that is how it came out!
Using ConTeXt I noticed that fi becomes a ligature, did not like, but it
was not that important.
Till I decided to start using ConTeXt I had been using XeLaTeX.
regards
Keith.
Am 26.04.2013 um 10:20 schr
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:41:15AM +0200, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
> On the other side, I believe, ligatures of off by default in LaTeX, et
> al. or at least are feature
> is set when the font is loaded.
So you neither use LaTeX nor ConTeXt?
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On 4/26/2013 9:41 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Am 25.04.2013 um 08:56 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz :
On 04/25/2013 08:20 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
First I think it better if ligatures should be off as a default.
Then you should not be using any form of TeX. ligatures have been par
Hi Thomas,
Am 25.04.2013 um 08:56 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz :
> On 04/25/2013 08:20 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
>> First I think it better if ligatures should be off as a default.
>
> Then you should not be using any form of TeX. ligatures have been part of TeX
> since its invention (TeXbook,
On 04/25/2013 08:20 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
First I think it better if ligatures should be off as a default.
Then you should not be using any form of TeX. ligatures have been part
of TeX since its invention (TeXbook, p. 4), and they have been part of
fine typesetting since Gutenberg. It's
Hi Wolfgang, All,
First I think it better if ligatures should be off as a default.
Now, to my actual question.
Is there a way in ConText to selectively true certain ligatures on/ff.
for example fl could be on, but fi off.
I know that I can set up the the editor to do it, or use unicode directly,
Am 24.04.2013 um 11:00 schrieb Peter Münster :
> On Wed, Apr 24 2013, H. Özoguz wrote:
>
>> The second attachment shows the same word written in MS-Word, again with
>> Adobe
>> Garamond Pro, without this curiosity.
>
> Perhaps a bug in M$-Word...? ;)
Microsoft added support for opentype lig
Ok thanks, feature, not a bug, embarassing ... but good to learn :)
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On Wed, Apr 24 2013, H. Özoguz wrote:
> The second attachment shows the same word written in MS-Word, again with Adobe
> Garamond Pro, without this curiosity.
Perhaps a bug in M$-Word...? ;)
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Am 24.04.2013 um 10:39 schrieb H. Özoguz :
> Hi,
>
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[AGaramondPro]
> \starttext
> Amficool
> \stoptext
>
> gives an "i" without dot, see attachment. And the letters "i" and "f" are
> curiously bonded.
>
> The second attachment shows the same word written
Hi,
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[AGaramondPro]
\starttext
Amficool
\stoptext
gives an "i" without dot, see attachment. And the letters "i" and "f"
are curiously bonded.
The second attachment shows the same word written in MS-Word, again with
Adobe Garamond Pro, without this curiosity
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